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Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Screwloose, Jun 2, 2025.

  1. Screwloose

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    Maybe Dave or Tom could help with a picture? I believe if you look at the FX651V starter and compare it to the FS651V starter it will be clear as mud.
    One has a solenoid on its back and the other is a straight round motor
     
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    It's supposed to be a premium upgrade in the engine package I purchased.
    It's more of a why do you promote it to me, sell it to me and then switcheroo me scenario.
     
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    Ah, gotcha...yeah if you didn't get the "premium" engine...
     
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    A lot comes down to the quality of the starter. They both could be chit I dunno.
    Thank you for posting the pictures.
     
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    Thanks! I definitely understand now. Much better than the contraption I had going in my head. Lol.

    EDIT: I have one of the latter on my dirt bike. Plus it doesn't look much different than an old Ford starter. Obviously the solenoid is remote mounted.
     
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    Yup, don't recall seeing a solenoid shift starter on any bike or ATV...although...I think that maybe the old BMW R bikes did?
    Most bikes have chain or gear drives between starter/engine, with some sort of overrunning clutch to "disengage" after running.
     
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    Yeah I misspoke. The one on my bike is an electric motor with a fixed gear. It has a separate bendix and crown wheel between the starter and flywheel.

    I see that HD starter still has a Bendix.

    Screwloose I always thought a solenoid was a heavy duty relay. So I'm not sure id want an "overstressed relay" actuating a starter motor.
     
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    The old Ford starter actually used a section of one of the poles as a solenoid.
     
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    I'm just saying the relay is not something that they should be proud of.
     
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    You're a stickler for advertising matching actuality.

    The dealer is just the vessel, be nice to them, it's marketing/ procurement/ engineering and maybe even accounting. Gotta go after the manufacturer, the death star/ mother ship. The engine comes from yet another manufacturer. So it will get a bit more complicated.

    Be persistent. You paid for higher quality and got the industry norm.

    Being that I'm in the Supply Chain side of manufacturing, I'll tell you that you need to realize all the layers to this onion.
     
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    I know it has nothing to do with the dealer. In fact I only asked the dealer for some contact info so I could get some answers on my own.