Woodstock's new steel stove

Yeah, I'm not going to give a 750 lbs stove a try unless I am damm sure it is what I need. That stove is 200 lbs heavier than any stove I have moved previously.

 

I remember your install pics. It was definitely interesting coming in from the second floor.

 

That is just a stock pic I grabbed online. The Defiant is in the living room. The 30NC is the stove that is in the walk-in fireplace. The Encore is wedged into the kitchen fireplace.

Long term I would like to dig out out the kitchen fireplace and make it larger so there is more space around the stove.

 

The wood I was burning last year was mostly 10 year old cedar that had a moister content of about minus 10 %. It was too dry, if there can be such a thing. It burned super hot, and fast. But my stove surface never got that hot. I'm not saying it didn't produce heat, in fact the opposite. It produced the heat of a nuclear reaction and blasted us out of the house with that cedar. But the surface of the stove never got very hot comparatively speaking. This is all a GOOD thing by the way, not a bad thing. I just think the soap mass soaks up lots of heat, and releases it at a certain temp, prolly lower than that of other materials like steel or iron. But I'm guessing, I'd have to research this... The only down fall for me was, the cooktop did not get super hot for cooking, which I would prefer. This year I'll be burning much more normal wood, 2 year old oak, maple and pine mix. Will see how it goes.

 

I measure my stove from the surface on the cast iron part, right next to the pipe, not on the stone at all..

 

I get the impression that the center burner on the new hybrid stove is removable like old cook stove burners so that if an owner needed a "high" setting they could get one by doing so.

 

I find this to be true of the BKK as well. Our stove sits in the middle of the living space and that 4.3 cu ft box gets loaded full every time even this time of year. I never experience that heat off the front of the stove thing even with the side and rear panels on my model.

 

Interesting, I would have thought the BK's steel would radiate alot of local heat as many steel stoves do.

 

You have to remember the only portion of the stove that is really burning (on a low burn) with any intensity is the cat. There really isn't much in the way of an active fire it's more just a smolder.

 

Certified is correct. It is also true at high burn. It isn't until you are running it wide open (first pic) that you really feel it off the front to the point you wouldn't want to sit right in front of it. Most of the time it looks like the second pic. I think a big steel cat stove makes a lot of sense for a 24/7 burner as long as you are committed to dry wood. I look forward to seeing what Woodstock comes up with.

 

A little info about the new stove:

• They expect it to be for sale by spring/early summer.
• Estimated weight of the steel stove is around 650lbs.
• Same type of burn system as the Progress. Which, you prpobably already knew.
• Expect to have about the same burn time as the Progress. (12-14 hours)
• The ability to heat an area will be about the same as a Progress.
• Pricing, as others have mentioned, is hoped to be at or below $2k
• Like the Progress, it will not excel at a slow and low burn like the Fireview/Keystone/Palladian.

 

That's the only way I run my PH. Low and slow, closed draft or just cracked. It works fine.. No flame for an hour or two then some secondaries will come on and char the wood up and then back to the cat mode.. I never open my draft more then a crack... I get stove top temps of 450 -500, tons of heat... I found as well as another owner of a PH that this stove puts a ton of heat in the coal stage, for hours.. All that mass pays off in the end coaling stage.. I just posted my ash pan after 11 days, 24/7, not even half full... If I couldn't run the PH low and slow I'm sure I would have burned a lot of wood and had the ash pan full by now.. Almost two weeks and not even half full.. Here's the proof. First time I've pulled it out..

 

Good to hear. What are your burn times on those burns? Can you load it up full and do a low burn?

I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do when I get rid of the VC stoves.

 

NOT excel at slow and low? Wonder why. Probably need to keep air moving through to keep particulates low.

Who did you talk to BBAR?

 

I load it about half full and get 10 hrs of usable heat.. I've never packed it full... I was amazed with just a coal bed about an inch or two deep, the stove throws off heat for a a good 2-3 hours... That 750 lbs really holds the heat... Another PH owner mentioned the same thing to me about all the heat that it produces with just a coal bed.. I was really surprised over the Fireview.. If you load it full I'm sure your going to get more secondary flames as well, but, I run the stove with the draft completely closed or just until I feel the draft open, like not even an 1/8 th inch... The Progress seems at least in my case to have a really good draft... Never smokes out the door on start up or reload... I'm using the top exit, up into a 90 into a masonry chimney with a 21 ft insulated liner... I think you'd be very pleased with a few of these stoves... They heat! I wonder if you bought two, would Woodstock cut you a break? I know there are lots of stoves out there with great technology, I don't care what any one burns, not bashing anyone's stove preferences . That's fine.. I'm just trying to be honest here, not saying at all that this is the best stove out there . I think on the secondary flames, the smaller your wood the more you will get... This stove seems to like the big rounds and will even excel at burning wood in the upper moisture content. Woodstock has a video on burning less seasoned wood in this stove... Wish you were close, your welcome to spend a day and watch it burn... I know it's hard deciding on all the new stoves that are coming out.. a lot to choose from.. But that's a good thing..

 

Not sure. The stove will burn like the Progress. So, it isn't bad. Just may not be what I was hoping for. Again.

I was surprised by the estimated weight of the stove. For a steel stove, that's pretty damm heavy. (well, 650 is frickin' heavy no matter what it is made out of...)

They mentioned their name, but I do not remember it.

 

Charlie.. the PH sounds like some of the Honda Touring bikes.. "fill them up and you're good to ride for half a season!"

 

Yeah, I really would like to know how the stove performs packed full while being burned in whatever low setting the stove offers.

What I need is a lot more Progress owners that are coming from different stoves so I can understand the difference of the stove.

If a few people that owned a 30NC or a Jotul F600 or a Isle Royal or a few other 3 cu ft stoves would report in, it would give me a good comparison so I could better understand what I can expect.