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Woodstock Soapstone Co. stove sale

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by TurboDiesel, Mar 15, 2017.

  1. Backwoods Savage

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    They do have a maintenance kit you might be interested in. Ask about it the next time you call.
     
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    I didn't know that.. I shall have to call..
     
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    I know there will be a learning curve,going from a epa steel stove to an catalytic stove.The firebox on my stove is 1.7cuft,and it does an awesome job of keeping up,my worry is going up too a 2.5cuft stove and not being able to use the stove when it is in the 30s and 40s.
     
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    I have found Woodstock product my and others experiences to do low slow exceptionally well .. mines 3.2 cubic feet and 35 here today loaded with pine and popular need to turn raise heat output as kids are playing outside and door has been opened a hundred times and housee is below 70:bug:
     
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    I'll have to shoot them an email. I've searched their site and I don't see a kit for the IS. I found a parts breakdown that gives me numbers for individual parts, which I suppose I could use instead. I just thought a kit might make more sense when replacing "wear" parts
     
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    Are you worried it might run you out of the room....or worst the house?
     
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    That's what I got too watch is how much of a load I put in,if the sun is out and it gets in the 40's,I am opening up windows.My stove shuts down really well,but that steel keeps pumping out the heat.My house is only 1400 square feet and very well insulated.
     
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    Yes that's what I am worried about.
     
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    With dry fuel and a decent draft I don't forsee you having issues throttling the stove back as low as you'd like it to go
     
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    I never understood that fear in a house with openable windows. It is so worth it to shed some heat in the shoulder season if it means you can sleep in all winter without worrying about reloading. Big fireboxes is where it's at!
     
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    It takes some finesse to load a large stove and not get it too warm in the shoulder season. Even the best of them may end up opening a window now and again. And who doesn't love the smell of fresh spring air in the house anyway?
     
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    The IS has no problem running 5 splits for 12+ hrs when set right for lower heat output. I think the trick is to adjust loads and wood type for the seasons. I'm finding cherry and siberian elm to be a good combo for lows in the low 30s and highs at 50ish. I will definitely be seeking out some pine for the future shoulder seasons. Some Boxelder is on deck for next season. The tough part I have is I can sell that stuff for "campfire wood" and make some extra mulah to buy "toys" for my hoarding! So I'm torn:hair: every time I come across lesser btu woods.
     
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    I do not have a fear of opening my windows in the shoulder season or in the winter as far as that goes. I have opened them in the winter now.The stove I have now I can sleep all night and have plenty of coals in the morning.
    The things I like about the Absolute stove is,yes a larger firebox,and being catalytic for the slow and dampened down burns and still getting heat passed 8 hours if I work late.
     
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    Not trying to argue just looking for more info... looked at link best Kuma is 84% efficient with emissions at 2.2.... my Woodstock IS is 82% efficient with emissions of 1.0 gram ... where I live the emissions count for rebates ...
     
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    Kuma has ONE cat stove that does pretty good.
    The rest ? Non cat and not worth comparing.
    The Absolute hybrid at 0.5 grams per hour emissions is 5 times better than the Kuma
     
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    I was talking about efficiency only. If emissions is your thing then maybe you should have exclaimed, "the emissions are second to none."
     
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    You guys are as bad as the bench racers on the car forums.
    .:p:Yar:
    :cheers:
     
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    From the EPA's site

    Emission limits for wood stoves


    The internal design of wood stoves has changed entirely since the EPA issued standards of performance for new wood stoves in 1988. EPA's mandatory smoke emission limit for wood stoves is now 4.5 grams of smoke per hour (g/h) under Step 1 of the revised standards of performance for wood burning room heaters; Step 2 will take effect on May 15, 2020, when the standard will be lowered to 2.0 g/h. Heaters using the optional cord wood test method must meet a standard of 2.5 g/h. A voluntary hangtag marks units that meet these standards before the May 2020 date.

    Stove manufacturers have improved their combustion technologies over the years, and now some newer stoves have certified emissions in the 1 to 4 g/h range. When comparing models, look for the EPA white label on the stove - a lower g/h rating means a cleaner, more efficient wood stove
     
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    Come'on now, you're smarter than that. Emissions and efficiency are obviously not related that way. Read the chart for many examples. My non-cat NC30 boasts ridiculously low efficiency and emissions of just 1.6 gph which is much cleaner than my princess at 2.4 gph. That princess is just as efficient as the PH at 81%. The EPA is not very smart and that statement might have been true back when emissions were 10 gph but not anymore. My old hearthstone heritage was also a clean burner but very inefficient.

    Woodstock does an excellent job at hitting a very low emissions point with their hybrids and also very efficient. Good job. Just don't come in here and say "efficiency is second to none" when obviously they've been beat in that area.

    I don't own a Kuma but talked with one of the employees on a forum, they earned that high efficiency title even if it is their only high performance model. Actually one other stove brand/model tested higher but it looks like an obscure lab experiment instead of an actual common stove on the market.
     
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