Woodstock Keystone/Palladian flue size

Ash pan comes out just fine as well

 

WS is really trying to help me figure out this clearance thing with my wood mantel.

Even the experts there agree this clearance stuff is not always easy or intuitive to understand.

I wonder - can I put up a TEMPORARY mantel shield during burning season, and remove it the rest of the year??

 

I don't see why not....

 

I found this in Woodstock's stove gallery photos:

No way does that look like 30" clearance from any angle above the stovetop.

 

What you can't see is that the mantel is solid cement.

 

This one too??

 

Does the shield have to be on the mantle or can something be rigged on the back of the stove? You would think WS would of fabricated a different rear heat shield to cut down these clearances. I bet extending the current rear shield a few inches taller with a slight curve at top would redirect some heat forward reducing clearances.

 

I would assume the shield can be attached to the stove as long as it provides the proper shielding. I also like the idea of having a removable shield and just putting it up during the burning season. Those stoves youve got pictured sure dont look like they are within clearances but who knows I would hope that Woodstock wouldnt advertise something like that on the website. Stick with them though they will help you get it straightened out I spent hours on the phone with Lorin working out the kinks of my remodel every time I thought we had it right I would find something else and have to call her back she was extremely helpful with everything didnt seem to mind all the phone calls.

 

The shield can be on the mantle. I found this one in the "owner gallery" WS photos that I like. I just wonder if it meets clearance code?

 

Might be tuff to attach a shield to the stove to protect areas above the stove. They do come with rear shield that helps rear clearances.

I contacted WS and it turns out the photos unfortunately were for advertising purposes, and do not necessarily represent "code" installations.
I saw some owner installed setups that had me scratching my head, knowing the heat the Progress throws out I would be worried for some owners.

 

How about a heat shield that can be screwed to the underside of the lintel with sheet metal screws and protrude out over the stove top? It would have to stick out a bit I imagine. I also wonder if the stove is partially in the fireplace opening, would the shield not have to be as big?

 

The stove would have to be out at least 6" from the fireplace opening for me to be able to get to the "T" and also to meet rear clearance to the side wood trim.

The Lintel mounted shield is interesting - I might run that by WS. I like it because It would be less obtrusive than a mantel mounted shield. Thanks for the tip Fishingpol! I think I will have to have a sit-down with the town inspector and run all this by him before I move forward. I would hate to get to the finish line and not cross it.

 

Todd:

When you burn 2 stoves at the same time in really cold weather, do you run them both at a low burn and get long burn times from both stoves?

I'm hoping if I add a Keystone, I can burn the Progress on a much lower setting and get my 12 hour burns in the coldest weather.

 

Yes, usually both stoves low and slow during coldest weather but sometimes I'd do one short hot fire in my upstairs KS in the evening to keep the overnight house temps from dropping too much.

 

If you're interested how slow and low it will go, I do one 10 hr burn plus one 14 hour burn per 24 hrs much of the winter. Plenty of coals to relight after 14 hrs with oak, probably go for 18 hrs on most burns. Not bad for 1.4 cuft.

 

Wow those last 2 posts really sound good. The Keystone seems to have a great slow burn time, and coupled with the Progress it sounds like it might be a winning team.

I'm hooking up with a chimney repairman/sweep whose really familiar with the 2013 nfpa 211 codes for clearance requirements and is a stickler for code detail. We'll see what he says about my pickle.

 

Todd:

I was going over old Keystone posts for info and found this one. Were you running the same size liner 6" or 7" on both stoves, and were they both top or rear vent? This made no sense to me. I agree, 400F stack temp seems high for a WS cat stove.