It'll have a timber running the length ( really the width at 10') in the center of each bay. That timber will be tied to the joists, and underneath that timer will be several concrete blocks or bricks. She'll be beefy. It's already really beefy, but more beef is a good thing. Speaking of more beef. Yes, Hayden is getting huge. He's napping now otherwise I'd weigh him now. 17 weeks old now, I think I got his age wrong earlier in the thread.
Ironically.. I was thinking the same thing.. rather than a support block under every beam, a central beam with 2 or 3 support blocks. Should be structurally sufficient, and cost effective And.. well.. yeah, Hayden is a great lookin pup
Horkn my back porch when I bought the house was bouncy, I mean trampoline bouncy. Because snow banks were frozen in I looked at it in spring. 14’ wide 12 long. Framing was 2x6. 8’ on 1 side 6’ other to center beam. joist hangers both side nailed off correctly. Ok built but center beam was floating not a post either end of middle
That's also what I was thinking at first too...but thought it may be tough to pull off with the far end being so close to the ground
I'll have Hayden dig it out. I'll figure it out, but extra beef is going to be added. Just not this weekend. It's going to be stupid hot and 70+ dew points today and tomorrow.
Patience. Unless you are bored and want to head north to help me. Pack up that multistrada and head on up. Only partly kidding.
I like the part that it is three structures. Because that is sitting on the ground, winter frost will have a say and can lift it up a ways. Being three separate small buildings with a whole of of weight in them should go a long ways to keep them stable. I've seen so many attached decks that wraped to the point you couldn't walk on them from frost heaving. Here, we go down about 4 ft with post if we want to avoid frost. Even then have to line the sides so front can't grab the side and pull them up. Old timers put used oil on the sides. keeps frost out.
savemoney trick to beating frost (which is just frozen ground water) is get below it and provide an outer layer for frost to work on. Learned that as teenager putting in docks. Put plastic on outside of poles. We were using repurposed flag poles. Ice heaves plastic around pole leaves poles alone.
Some soils are worse than others. Well drained areas seldom cause a problem. My garage is on about 12 ft of road fill. (chucks of asphalt and gravel) No problems with heaving there. My porch post are set on ledge about 12-18 in. down. I have seen horror shows of things that moved and were destroyed by frost heaves. That method you reported is a sure way to protect your investments. I've never seen an issue with frost heaves on wood sheds. Most issues I have seen is from the sinking of the supports and the buildings needing to be jacked up and leveled.
Ok, fun with lack of PT lumber. Question... Would 2) 2x4's screwed together the tall way be stronger or as strong, or weaker, than or landscape timber? I'm looking to use these for the center bracing underneath to tie the joists together and bear more weight.
So you are basically making a "2 x 7"? If I were gonna try that I would "glue and screw" it...basically a DIY LVL Gorilla Glue time?
Actually, I think it'd end up as a 3.5x3.75 inch If I'm not mistaken, a "2x4" is actually 1.75" x 3.75" I agree that gluing them would add more strength. You could also add a section of 1/2" plywood in the center, glue the "sandwich" together, and have a very strong 4"x3.75" beam. Edit.. You'd want the plywood vertically oriented of course.
