Bud Dave, there is still Lake Michigan and Lake Superior. Many call them oceans and they are like one without the salt water. And you even get to see the ocean going ships on the Great Lakes.
Yup, I know. And they can get real nasty also from November to May. I have some Buddies who sailed strictly the Great lakes and love it up there. I have a Buddy who settled in Travers city when he retired.
