Weed Killer (Total Kill)

Never really thought about diesel being illegal. I googled it and I couldn't find anything other than many links to people using it.
I am talking about a small amount on a normal sized property. I do the weeds on my ~3/4 acres every couple years with maybe a gallon total. My truck probably leaks out more than that


Didn't realize the chemicals you guys are talking about are mixed with water. We aren't lucky to have TSC or farm type stores so it's either mail order or what is sold at Lowe's type places.
The last time I bought RoundUp it was $30ish for a gallon and meant to be used from that jug (came with a sprayer attached even). It did ok on the grasses but most of the other stuff was barely effected.

 

Nate the roundup in the gallon jug is the most expensive way to buy it and if I remember right it is mixed at .5-1% and the max label rate is up to almost 4% based upon type of weed and application equipment. Dont quote me as I dont have it memorized. But for example in site prep type mix of glyphosate/roundup you can mix either at the 13 or15% rate to account for UN-total coverage of a plant.

Trust me doing fuel or oil clean or dirty onto a property is illegal...just as illegal as the guys who double or triple the label rate on herbicide to make it "hot or more potent".

But diesel can be applied to the ground in acceptable ways, like I said mixes in a tank application to help burn through the leaves. Or we use it in what we call basel injection where its sprayed at a stem on the diesel helps carry the chemical through the bark tothe ccambium, this is all legal.

Also we use it in forestry for prescribed burning mix 60/40 diesel and gas. And no it does not all burn throw some in the dirt and the flame blows out it stays there but its not much.

 

Dex herbicide is tricky there is plenty of factors that effect its effectiveness.

Look at your label most all roundup that is the concentrate and the Glystar is the exact and I mean exact same thing its a surfatcant(used in aiding the adhesion to leaves) and 41% glyphosate.

The only more power full stuff I believe is roundup quick pro packs that I think are like 52% glyphosate???

My point is your using the same chemical. Maybe you had some bad days?? If its been too long since a rain it do sent work well, too cool like under 70f it doesnt work well, and too early in season??

U have had the same problem with glystar myself.

I also oversee professional applications for the government..I have had contractors tell me some days to will spray and the stuff is still green a week later other days 3 days later its all brown not necessarily talking about glyphosate here bit just to show it happens in other applications as well.

 

Posted in the wrong place... I have a thread in site suggestions going now and accidently posted this here. I just deleted it. And put it in the correct place.

 

Where is gly labeled for mixing with diesel?

 

Gly isnt most likely...but it is allowed in "tank mixes" and you can mix garlon and diesel and "tank mixes" will include diesel.

 

I'm not sure about diesel ever being legal. I don't think it is legal for any petroleum distillate to go directly into the soil. I worked at a place that when a hydraulic line broke we had to dig up the dirt and burn it per EPA regs.

EDIT: I guess it is, but basically serves the purpose of a crop oil for an emulsified mix. Seems weird to use diesel for that.

 

Yes its illegal to purposefully fun petroluim distillates or oil onto the ground. If I had the time to ease through pages of beaurocratic nonsense I would give you a pull quote and reference.

No it probably does not say...it is illegal to spray diesel for the purpose of weed control...either.

What if you were useimg used motor oil to control weeds it would do the same thing, would that too be ok?

 

Ages ago we used to use something called triox (spelling) it would sterilize the soil for up to a year. Nothing would grow but I don't know if you can even get it anymore. Used around out buildings, fence lines etc.

 

Most likely what your buying pete is just 41% glyphosate and is making a 1.5% solution. You would come out way cheaper to go to like tsc or your ag co op. And buy a gallon it would last you for years and cost 200% less in the long run or so

 

And there lies the problem..... A crop oil should be nonphytotoxic (now my head hurts) diesel is toxic. People here it said to use crop oil and they don't have any so they grab the next best thing they think. Unfortunately its not and it harms the main chemicals function.

 

Just buy a 250 gallon tote, price will be under $10 a gallon.

 

Its not on the label.

 

I try to buy it off my contractors that buy it by the barrel when I need it but I never needs it cause I buy it 2.5 gallons at the time.

Does your label not say allowed to be mixed with ....in tank mixes?

I have my label on my desk and will look at some point today.

 

I just take my jug over to my BIL and have him fill it in the spring when they are spraying beans. A six pack usually covers the bill.

 

Really?? I can spray out over 2 gallons in the spring just killing the weeds out of my garden before I till it!!!

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