Using House Wrap for Wood Pile? Tyvek Barricade Zip Everbuilt

I used it way back in 92 to wrap my house under construction for winter while I milled the siding. Figured it’d help keep the plywood dry. Heavy rain, high winds and it was soaked behind it.
That’s why years later when I saw it being used for masonry I did a little digging.

 

I always remember my shop teacher in 1986 (my senior year of trade school) saying it stopped air infiltration, but was vapor permeable. Tyvek was relatively new at the time. This always stuck in my mind. Never have really researched it. I know siders use it as vinyl siding is not completely rain proof.

 

That’s correct. Though vinyl siding done correctly is rain proof. Wind does get behind, sounds counterintuitive I know. Hence Tyvek to stop drafts
I was on the largest FB masonry page. Over 25,000 members last I looked. It was taken down for reasons I can’t understand. But I saw things from around the country, around the world that were downright shocking. Much worse than using Tyvek. LOL Caveat Emptor.
FWIW Tyvek does now make varying degrees of wrap. House wrap is the original stuff. There’s commercial wrap that has a higher water resistant threshold. They also make rainscreen which is specifically designed for stick on masonry applications. The latter is by all accounts an excellent product for its intended use.

 

Cant tell how many times i got calls for roof leaks that turned out to be from the siding either aluminum or vinyl. I never worked with either until a few years ago and started doing more of it. PITA doing alone and i always said if i were to do it id do things different to prevent rain from getting behind it. I dont mind it, but wouldnt want to do it all the time.
The look on some homeowners faces when i told them their vinyl siding was not weather tight.
Im not one for siding over existing siding either.

 

I don't side over existing siding either. Rip it off so you can see what you have, and do it right. If I don't want to shingle my own roofs, I tell my subs to strip all the shingles off. How do you really know how the sheathing is doing? Can't tell everything from the attic, and snow load matters.

 

vinyl siding is crap.

 

Not a fan of it either. Can beat the look of unstained, unpainted red cedar colored only by mother nature, but its expensive both in material and labor. I personally LOVE working with cedar shingles (either red or white) but if you cant beat them, ya gotta join them. Plus either way i have to make a living.

Sorry for the thread hijack Buzz Benton

 

Yeah, Sorry Buzz Benton. I'm out of here....But I'm glad I own my own company. I have to warranty my work for one year here. That is why I won't put up vinyl siding anymore. I have more work than I can handle but I guess if I was starving, I'd bid twice as much vinyl and safe it it my shop for a year.

 

Not a problem Brad, we beat the whole idea of covering a pile with house wrap to death in the first few responses anyway. I don't mind reading opinions about it as a house-wrap since that is it's intent, and I enjoy when you guys with years of expertise like you and Camber and jo have back up your opinions with experience.

I've built a couple homes (well, written the checks!) and am a huge fan of James Hardy type cement siding. You mention Cedar - it makes fantastic kindling, and out here in the west we're getting away from it as a roofing or even as a siding material for that exact reason - it burns too good! I have both Incense Cedar and Western Red Cedar on my property, and worry about fire every day all summer long. My preference for cementious siding is that it doesn't warp, split, crack, or get bugs. It doesn't rot, it holds paint well, and it comes in a ton of varieties for different applications. I would use it again - and did.

This house (below) was the last one I had built, and has Hardy plank siding AND the Hardy shingle style siding on that gable end and over the garage. The white trim is all 4/4 Western Red Cedar and I believe it costs about as much as the siding. Hardy makes those trim boards now too - I would try them. I liked living there, I was two miles from the small town of Bandon that has completely burned to the ground.





The other system (below) that I would like to try and build with is Everlog.
Have you heard of them????? Here is a sample house from their website - it's a cementious product again.

See all that gorgeous timbers and logs? Nope, all cementious products, even the log "ends".

 

or just build it out of firewood

 

There's a masonry project for you Joe. We could use black locust. Ill bet you could do it as ive seen your work!

 

BL May be a good choice. They recommend softwoods,,,,,,less power in the movement to crack the mortar would be my guess, just a guess. Season BL long enough and it may become fairly stable.
Building one of those is simple as hell. Labor and time consuming but simple.

old pipe dream of using cordwood construction for building a 3-4 bay garage with second story workshop/mancave. Complete with two story masonry heater.
Think that’s off the bucket list at this point LOL. Maybe someday I’ll build a sample panel just for fun. Maybe build doghouses too hahaha