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  1. ironpony

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    how close on the HW? IIRC they should not be closer than 18 inches??? might want to verify before one fails...
     
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  2. ironpony

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    looks good, future reference, any plate that touches concrete should be PT.
     
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    Yes, 18" metal before the tank which just happens to be the length of common flex connections.
     
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  4. Scotty Overkill

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    Are you talking about the shark bite? If so, it's approx. 18" or more....
     
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    I might do a manifold setup like that here too Scotty, and see if it reduces the time it takes for my hot water to reach the faucets. I have no problem with Pex where I can't see it, :rofl: :lol:. I'm thinking a home run setup with 1/2" going to each fixture? But that's down the road a bit.....

    As far as the Shark Bites go, I know, they've been around awhile now. They are acceptable as long as they are accessible. And they are so easy it's real tempting.But, but, but.... I don't even like/trust compression fittings. Lol I guess I am old-school and plain stubborn on some things!

    By the way, that water heater works awesome! :thumbs: :D
     
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    MasterMech The Mechanical Moderator

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    That's some awful nice plumbing work there Highbeam. I have the same pre-filter for my setup.

    No softener for you?


    My iron levels are pretty low, under 1ppm actually which a softener could handle, but it's the manganese and hydrogen sulfide that drive me to install the filter. I didn't want to because of the pressure drop through the filter bed. But it was the best option other than stupid expensive cartridge filter setups in parallel. And I can't upsize the filter much because of the backwash requirements. I can't do 15gpm for 10 minutes on a well! (Not at 30+ psi anyways)
     
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    MasterMech The Mechanical Moderator

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    The larger wall is on cedar shims, does that count? :picard:

    (To stop the plate from twisting to conform to the pitch of my floor. Garage floor is 1/2 over 12" to the floor drain in the center.)
     
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    MasterMech The Mechanical Moderator

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    Delivery day today!

    Hehehehe! :D

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    Move over Scotty Overkill, we got a new overkill kid in town! :rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:

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    Ain't she a beaut?! o_O :dex::dex::dex:
     
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  9. Canadian border VT

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    what a pressure tank:jaw: how big is house? how many women?
     
  10. Scotty Overkill

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    :jaw:
     
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    MasterMech The Mechanical Moderator

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    1280sq ft Ranch, 3BR/1Bath. My wife, three boys (4, 2, and 2 months) and the biggest girl of all, ME. I like my showers. :emb: So not that big of a house. But there were multiple reasons to go big with the tank.

    First and foremost, I am a red-blooded American male. :D:picard:

    After calculating the size tank I would need for my well pump (WX251) the price difference to upgrade to the bigger tank was not all that significant. I have a 1hp pump, so we want the pump to run for at least 2 min before it cuts out. Smaller pumps can get away with 1 min but longer is better. (@EricVW, I heard that! :p)

    I also wanted a sizable amount of reserve so that in the event of a power outage, I do not need to run the generator to maintain a small amount of water on reserve, i.e: toilet will flush a few times overnight without the generator running.

    And also, since I am on a well, and the iron filter requires a fairly hefty flow for backwashing (much more than the softener), the jumbo tank will allow a high-flow surge in the beginning of the backwash and sustain it longer than a smaller tank would before I am relying on the pump alone to provide sufficient flow. This should help "fluff" the media bed and allow a more thorough backwash.
     
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    That's the idea. ;)
     
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    I understand. Grew up with a well. A bunch of woods and old power lines was a recipe for poo poo. Was not uncommon for the power to go out a couple times a year for at least a day. Throw in an ice storm and we never knew when the power would com back on. No affordable generators 30-35 years ago. Always had a few 5 gallon buckets ready to go...
     
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    Whaaaat, me ....say something on top of that......never:rofl: :lol::whistle:
    Of course, I can see the top.......:picard::):D
    I think you've got a solid plan coming togeth MasterMech!:yes:
    My brother (a hydronic engineer and master plumbing router in a past life) would be proud:thumbs:
    I know I am, of you. You're doing great work, and it's for the fam too......except the "biggest girl" thing.....:faint:
    That was just funny, I don't care who yar!:rofl: :lol:
     
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    If you need more water to the fixtures, turn the pressure up on the well pump switch.
    Changing from 3/4 mains to 1" mains in the house will not give you more water.
    This pump is submersible, yes?
     
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    Weird, but in the NW we don't usually have hard water but our ground water can have a lot of iron and manganese. You can always run two iron filters in parallel. That way they would flush on different days but together provide double the flow.
     
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    My whole house was redone in pex. Really impressed with it.
     
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    I thought of that but that's another $900, yeah, the filter is more expensive than the softener. And then the softener becomes the limiting point and this thing just keeps snowballing! But in a single bathroom home, I doubt we'll see a huge pressure drop. Both the softener and the filter are rated to flow more than the old softener did so I shouldn't get any complaints. I hope.

    Yes, pump is submersible, 1hp 5gpm 330 feet down.

    Not really trying to get more water to the fixtures but with the pump upgrade and the increased demand of the filter backwash, I didn't want to be giving up flow to the 3/4" mains. I'm already running 40/60 on the pressure switch, I may experiment with 50/60 since this pressure tank is so massive but it will cut down my drawdown capacity big time.
     
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    I did our entire house with PEX when we gutted and remodeled. Each water device has its own hot/cold run from the Maniblock. Very little issue with pressure drop. I'm very happy with it.