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Tree of Heaven-Removal

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by gwoods71, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. Firewood Bandit

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    That is not correct. Parkinsons and glyphosate litigation is the product of Kalifornia and scum bag attorneys shopping for juries.

    https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/reg_actions/reregistration/fs_PC-417300_1-Sep-93.pdf

    Glyphosate Pesticide All pesticides sold or distributed in the United States must be registered by EPA, based on scientific studies showing that they can be used without Reregistration posing unreasonable risks to people or the environment. Because of advances in scientific knowledge, the law requires that pesticides which were first registered years ago be reregistered to ensure that they meet today's more stringent standards. In evaluating pesticides for reregistration, EPA obtains and reviews a complete set of studies from pesticide producers, describing the human health and environmental effects of each pesticide. The Agency imposes any regulatory controls that are needed to effectively manage each pesticide's risks. EPA then reregisters pesticides that can be used without posing unreasonable risks to human health or the environment. When a pesticide is eligible for reregistration, EPA announces this and explains why in a Reregistration Eligibility Decision (RED) document. This fact sheet summarizes the information in the RED document for glyphosate.

    Garlon would be a better product for the TOH, It is as others have mentioned, Triclopyr.
     
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    I recommend the hack and squirt method.
    A hand axe and a squirt bottle filled with undiluted glyphosate.
    One good hack coming down at a 45° angle leaving a pocket and a good squirt and its done for.
     
  3. Rich L

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    These government agencies can no longer be trusted if they ever could.They are controlled by Monsanto,Dow,Big Pharma,and the elite.They manufacture evidence as citizens continually become ill. Where was the EPA when the marines were being poisoned at Camp Lajune? Where were they when big business was creating thousands of toxic waste zones all over the country poisoned the young and the old ? Where were they when Johnson & Johnson was selling cancer causing talcum powder to millions of US women who developed cancer of the cervix and the list goes on and on ? The strange thing about it the top people responsible didn't do any time for murder.They just took their profits and lived happily ever after.
     
  4. Old Nate

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    Millions? I'd like to see a fact sheet on that... Kind of like people dying in a car accident and blaming it on Covid. HPV is the number one cause of cervical cancer. EPA is a joke, however.

    Using roundup, a time or two on a tree and we're getting cancer?
     
  5. Eric Wanderweg

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    My guess is that since the two are coevolved species, the long term damage to the trees will be negligible. As for our native trees that haven't dealt with the pests yet, they'll be in serious trouble once the bug population explodes.
     
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  6. Firewood Bandit

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    Do you have any proof of your allegations?
     
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  7. Rich L

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    Keep using Round-up you'll get an answer soon enough !
     
  8. Va Homesteader

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    if you want to kill the tree of heaven plant some kudzu near it. :rofl: :lol:
     
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  9. Old Nate

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    That's a no.
     
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    Excellent well reasoned response, I would expect nothing less.
     
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  13. gwoods71

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    I got back out to my parents last weekend.

    It is obvious which trees I sprayed, and which ones I missed (a lot) The sprayed ones are all brown and some with no leaves at all, the others are still green and well.

    So, on the 4' and under trees, roundup did work.
     
  14. jo191145

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    It’s the ten that pop up for every one you kill that is the problem. Like playing whackamole. :)
     
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    From all the research I have read, if they are chemically killed, this shouldn't happen, hence the roundup.

    Mechanically killing by cutting, mowing, or pulling is where the problem arises.
     
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    You need a poison that will travel back to the roots. Not sure if round up does that, maybe?
     
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    Did you use concentrated roundup or did you mix it per instructions? I never had luck with it and that was mixing it stronger than the directions.
    Heck the english ivy pretty much shrugged it off. Which is why I went with the brushtox. It definitely showed results in less than a week.
     
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    It was mixed per the instructions, my dad had mixed it earlier that week for other stuff, I just grabbed the sprayer and went to town on it. Mind you this is not Hardware store, or Home depot Roundup, but the stuff for spraying fields we get from the Co-op, not sure it is different, but the mix ratio is like 1-2%.

    I am quite sure roundup does go back to the roots.
     
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    There are different concentrations available from my understanding.
    The roundup I used was the lowes version super concentrate and it is supposed to be 50% glyphosate.
    I mixed it 6 oz to a gallon. maybe my eyes lied to me that day haha they are getting older than me it feels like.
    It does not go back to the roots per se from the wiki page
    Glyphosate is absorbed through foliage, and minimally through roots, and transported to growing points. It inhibits a plant enzyme involved in the synthesis of three aromatic amino acids: tyrosine, tryptophan, and phenylalanine. It is therefore effective only on actively growing plants and is not effective as a pre-emergence herbicide
     
  20. jo191145

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    Yep. Here’s a good little video of the proper methods. I have some of this in my future too.

    Tree of Heaven: Control Strategies