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Tree climbing for work or play

Discussion in 'Hobbies and Interests' started by J. Dirt, Nov 25, 2017.

  1. J. Dirt

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    That’s awesome! You need to make one of those motion flip books haha
     
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    Right now Ive got a weaver 4D saddle with a batten/bosun seat, which I’m thinking on getting a leg strap style soon.
    (Anyone’s thoughts on the new Notch sentinel or Buckingham Empire?)
    I’ve got New England 13mm safety blue rope with the same as a split tail using a Blake’s hitch tied through rock exotica rockD biners. When I use them, Buckingham titanium 2 3/4” replaceable gaff hooks with opsal cast pads(which I’m going to get different ones if anyone’s interested in these) Also a bunch of other biners of different shapes and sizes including steel, small web slings for light rigging, redirects and you name it! 1/2” Samson true blue for general smaller rigging and some other odds and ends. :whistle::D
     
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    30’ long distance lanyard nice for pulling/ holding yourself as a second tie for positioning
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    Here some pics from some pines I removed. DSC01479.JPG DSC01477.JPG IMG_1126.JPG
     
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    Boy, you guys use a lot fancier stuff than I do. I started climbing in 1982. My saddle and spikes I bought around 1986. Still use them although I have replaced the gaffs on the spikes a couple times over the years. The ones on there now are 6-7 years old. The saddle is a double-D with no back pad or leg straps. I tried one with the leg straps and hated it.

    The knot I use is much more basic as well. We always called it a barrel knot; two wraps under and one wrap over. It will slip occasionally if you don't get it tight enough but if I need to break free in a hurry, like the time I ran into a hornet nest in a tree, I can yank down on that top wrap and zip out of a tree in a big hurry. I had to descend about 40' that day and I'm pretty sure there was smoke coming off the knot.

    You'll notice that I also still use the old style snap; non-locking. I don't mind the lock snap for my lanyard but I want the non-locking on my climbing line. You can't even buy them anymore but I have a few stashed away.

    The only newer type apparatus I have is the Gibb's Ascender attached to my lanyard that I bought in the mid 90's. It proved to be easier tightening up as I went up a tree and the diameter decreased or if I need a second anchor point. A quick tug on the tail and I can take up any slack.

    Then there's the trusty 200T. The only saw I take up in a tree. This one is 5-6 years old and will still snap your hand with all the compression it has. I have three others too. One is basically a parts saw. The other two need rebuilt. Someday I'll get to that.

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    :thumbs: I think Some call that the taut line hitch you use there. As for those snaps I’ll have to look around here might be a couple :D
     
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    A bit of messing around after lunch today. Just tossed and advanced my tie in to about 50’ then slid down to a limb about 25’ up walked out on it and set the green long lanyard
    About 15’ from the trunk
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    33 degrees with a stiff breeze today still holding the oak leaves
     
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    photobucket-77264-1373424484895.jpg Weaver Cougar saddle . I had just converted it to rope bridge with small rigging plates and Sampson Bigfoot line .
    Most of my caribiners are Rock Exotica .
     
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    Do you like the rope bridge set up better than a 4d set up?
     
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    Some of my other gear. photobucket-75631-1375308217633.jpg photobucket-5564-1378483425101.jpg

    Top pic is the Hitch Hiker with an advance tether I had on the biner.
    Bottom is the web short sling I tied with a beer knot. Makes it so much nicer clipping in .
     
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    I really like that short web sling, I need to try that out for sure.
     
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    For a while I used a Petzel GriGri to repel with. Now it has been sent to the rigging side. It is a good piece of gear for several things but I found I preferred others up the tree with me.
     
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    I'm going to make others with about 10" longer tubular webbing. But keep the overall length the same. That will give me longer tails on the beer knot. That is how I make all my slings now, with a beer knot. Almost as clean as a sewn sling. But much less $$
     
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    photobucket-79378-1372726626962.jpg I prefer the rope bridge . The Cougar came with a factory rope bridge . Due to the rings it was spliced to I had to do the rigging plate conversion. I like having the plates there as they give me another set of attachment points for different things . Mainly I attach my rescue 8 to the right side when I come down on a Blake's hitch. If I wasn't as big around as I am I would probably use an Ergovation or a Nikosi. Not that the Cougar isn't a good and comfortable saddle. It is. Buckingham has their ideas about how big a climber should be tho. And they ain't gonna offer their saddle any bigger.
    I'll be the first to admit that I'm not built like a climber. Oh Well all the trees I've turned into stumps didn't know that.
     
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    One piece of advice I would give to all is . Top them where they get tiny. Small tops are much easier to deal with and put much less stress on the bole of the tree and root system than taking 1/2 or 1/3rd of the tree off in one big bite. Some trees it may not be practicle to go up till it's only 5" diameter like a 300 ' tall Doug fir.
    But many others , it is just safer. Also , after I put a good relatively big face in the top. I cut off both sides of the sap wood . I don't want a hinge , I only want what will become a small rectangle of relatively brittle wood. Then , then I'm set, cut the back up quick. Having a tree alligator or slab when your tied to it is deadly.
    I also use a groundy to pull tops over after I hang a pulling line in them . Generally just 1 hand is needed to pull a top if someone is far enough away. Some 3mm line or a Dynema throwing line works great for that job and its very light and affordable. Safety First ! Both for the climber, groundies and customer.
     
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    Quoted for truth.

    I've had a few wild rides by taking huge tops out just because I had the space to do it and didn't feel like climbing up any higher. Around here when we start swaying back and forth after dropping a big, heavy top we yell; HERSHEEEEY! referring to one of the wicked rides at Hershey Amusement Park. :D
     
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    Great thread:thumbs: very informative, and shows some of the depth of our members that’s not highly visible at 1st glance.

    Now for my experience- I quit climbing trees as a youngster, rock climbed a little as a teenster, and now the only knots I tie are on my velcro sneakers....:whistle:
    :rofl: :lol:
     
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    Are you sure Hershey isn’t relating to needing clean underwear? :rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol:
     
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    Atta boy! :thumbs:
     
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    Great thread! A lot of my tree work predates cell phone cameras common use.:BrianK: I've stepped away since my son was born 8 years ago, but I'm slowly easing my way back into things. I gotta agree with UncleJoe I'm in awe of all the fun gear you kids have these days. I climb with a Petzl Navajo Vario saddle that I bought new in 2000. For spikes I'm riding old school Buckingham steel spikes with weaver leather pads from the 90's. I even get them on right more than half the time:whistle:

    As far as technique: about the most exotic stuff I find myself doing is speed line work. That was a relatively new technique that I learned in a ISA workshop in the late 90s or early 2000s. If I can't do a simple top n flop I usually end up speed lining limbs down to the chipper and blocking the spar down. If I can't just push the blocks off because of root zone compression or yard damage, I end up using a loopy and block up top with a porta wrap and whoopie sling at the base of the spar. Like I said pretty basic stuff. I should be helping a fellow fhc member out with a removal here in a few weeks so maybe he'll have rare photographic evidence of me in a tree:thumbs:

    J. Dirt You look like you have the build of someone who might want to consider finding a ISA sponsored climbing competition.