Tractor owners, I do mean tractor too, not lawn mowers.

^^^This. Of course this pic has me carrying out my bucket on my forks with wood loaded in the bucket since I swap between them to fill the truck with firewood length and the trailer with log length.

 

I like it!! I'd copy your idea but my FEL never comes off


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I'm with you cg, how about IF the tractor has draft control and the lever is pushed all the way?
Expert, do you have 2 levers at your hitch control?

 

No sir, only 1 lever. Iv'e tried moving the 3ph control lever down a little but same results, hardly any front loader power. But I can lower the rear implement all the way down to the ground and like magic the front loader has all of it's power back. Raise the implement on 3ph and loader power gone by 90%. Beats me whats going on. If nothing is on the 3ph the loader works great regardless of 3ph position lever. One more thing that seems strange is when this reduced loader power is going on the joystick for loader is hard to move and tries to stick in all 4 positions as well. Thanks fuelrod

 

Is there proper fluid in the system to handle both the rear and the front loader? If you have one cylinder extended is there enough fluid to extend the other cylinder?

 

Then it would be giving fits without anything on the hitch.

 

Yes, fluid level is proper. The lack of front loader power only occurs if the rear 3ph is holding an implement off the ground, also this problem (does not) affect the pwr. steering system. Thanks Kimberly and others for digging, we'll get this figured out, I got faith in ya'll.

 

This could be very simple or very complex. I can say with confidence that when your 3pt is fully lowered, it goes into bypass mode, which may explain why you are able to lift the bucket in that condition. Something in the 3pt system stopping up the works when not in bypass. I have recently noticed some pulsing on my 3pt. Have begun to investigate, and oh boy...my particular tractor must have had 30+ engineers working on the hydraulic system when they designed it.

Currently, I am planning to try an adjustment on a poppet valve. I guess the bushings on the control lever itself can wear and cause symptoms like I'm having also. If it's beyond that, she may have to go to dealer. What a nightmare of valve bodies and connections!

This might sound silly about your FEL....but have you tried disconnecting and reconnecting your quick couplers? Saw that a few times as a source of FEL problems. Simple enough and free to try anyways.

 

Guy's I want to say Thank you for everyone's help on my loader issues. I realize I kinda got it in a thread which it doesn't fit well in. My fault completly. I do use my tractor for hauling my cutting tools and wood to and from. I'm gonna try it in it's own thread like was mentioned earlier. Thanks Drew

 

Drew will your 3 pt. hitch drift down with the tractor not running?
I think this will verify concretegrazers diagnosis.

 

I'm not sure, I'll check tomorrow. If something is hooked to 3pt I always lower it before turning off tractor. Do you mean with 3pt empty or implement connected?

 

An implement (weight) will make a problem more evident.

 

This thread on another site has a post with a link to a PDF that explains how it should be plumbed. (They seem to have a different issue, but the discussion and diagram might help)
Loader Ford 1710 loader only operate with 3 point in raised position

My dad has a 1710 that I put a loader onto from a 1510, but I can't say I fully understand the interaction with the 3pt system.

{edit} I need some advice about loader speed ford 1710 w/770B
The next to last comment on this second link was new to me.

 

expert of nothing I kept looking for the new thread so I could copy it and send to my niece as she works at a dealer for tractors and her dad is a farmer so we've fixed a few. . but 94BULLITT know his stuff too so keep us updated

 

Sorry, I haven't had a chance to start it's own thread. But thank you for your help.

 

Thank you friend, I will check that info. out.

 

Yes sir, that is my whole problem. When the 3pt is suspending an attachment my fel hyd. is killed by 90%. Thank you.

 

I'm not a hydraulics expert but I like concretegrazer's idea. Does it do it with the implement raised a little, not just all the way?

 

Some good info there. The power beyond block could be plumbed wrong, if it has one at all. That would explain the loader valve sticking.

I'm not familiar with this model but it is a Ford. So is the power steering powered powered by the hydraulics or on its own system? Regardless the priority valve will give you steering & brakes (if hydro powered) first, then rear hitch, & finally the loader.

 

Yes sir.From half inch off ground to full lift, same results. Hardly any front hyd. pwr.