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Time to revamp my 45ish year old speeco

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  1. Screwloose

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    After a steaming you will be surprised how good it looks. Been outside in the pile of wood area, never inside. I grew up with cosmoline, dad was world war two navy. Always spray the shiny stuff when done, put the wheelbarrow over the engine, pump and valve. When not going used for a while when warm remove the vent plug and put in a unvented one. Bearing buddies on the wheels.
    Cosmoline is basically a wax and the sprits on the shiny parts doesn't need to be cleaned just split and it's gone.
     
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    One thing I’ll offer about the side tables - especially since your push block is moving instead of the wedge, which means your wood is moving too - you might consider something smooth for the table surfaces. I’ve seen some nice grate and corrugated side tables get wrecked when the end of the wood got caught in a crevice and took the table with it as the ram continued in motion.

    I put an extra side table on mine big enough to cover the motor and hydraulic tank fill cap. I made it out of a heavy steel frame but decked it with a piece of smooth aluminum I had that had about a 1-1/2” lip turned up on the outside edge. It makes it really easy to slide and move the bigger chunks into position.

    Everybody has different ideas and expectations, so please just take this as a suggestion. You might decide you need something different.
     
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    That's a well made splitter. Will make a good base for all the options you want to add. Take some pics after you get it cleaned up!
     
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    I didn't think about, excellent point. We used to leave it hitched to the truck and put a smooth steel sheet from the wedge into the truck sort of self loading. Thanks for the suggestion!
     
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    When I bought it you didn't have much of choice. It's built tough for sure.
     
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    Thinking of using this as the electric drive.
     
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    Nice!
    I think that should pull a 22 GPM pump for sure, 28 might be pushing the limit?
    My 16 GPM pump was a bit too much for my "5hp air compressor special" motor (actually more like 4 HP, 230V 1PH 16 FLA) so I had to adjust relief and hi/lo shiftpoints down on the pump a bit, but it still splits about anything I throw at it. I do have a true 5 HP (21 FLA) motor to put on it now though, so that should allow me to go back to higher pressures.
    I can't (shouldn't) go to full 3000psi relief as my hoses are only rated for something like 2800 working pressure, I had my neighbor make them up for me and we had a barter arrangement, so couldn't beat that, even though I would have liked 3000 psi lines.
     
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    A hint of my direction...... IMG_20250507_164814_(1080_x_1080_pixel).jpg IMG_20250507_164952_(1080_x_1080_pixel).jpg
     
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    Won't be any love or joy in this relationship.
     
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    Soooo you may have guessed by now that I'm belt driving the pump with a overhung load adapter. I'm using a 6.9" 3 groove 3V driven pulley that I had. So simply using 3450 rpm disregarding pump efficiency I'm figuring 4 1/2" driver at 18gpm, 5" at 20 .....
    I want to be able to swap hp and ram speed along with electric or engine driver type. A long banded belt could let me hit and miss it. That would be cool at an engine show....... When my grandson is old enough I can make it crawl.
    Off topic... sorry
    Based on your experience, with not adjusting the relief do you think 20 is pushing it?
     
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    Pushing what, motor power, cylinder speed?
    20gpm?
     
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    Motor power. Originally wanted a 28 gpm pump so I could slow it down and reduce the whine. Not entirely sure how much I can push 7 1/2 hp.
     
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    Oh yeah, if you slow it down a little you are good to go with a 7.5 HP electric motor...myself I wouldn't want to cut it in half, which with the pulley sizes you listed that would put your pump at 2283 rpm with motor at 3500, which should put you in the 18gpm range with a 28gpm rated pump. That would make your 5" x 20" (if I read that right) run a 10.5 second cycle time (assuming 2"ram)
     
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    I have a 4" cylinder. 4 1/2" dia pulley is 18 gpm and 5" dia is 20 gpm
     
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    Yes, this is the better design. The trough type ones have to have the crud cleared from the channels way too much.

    Screwloose , is nice to see that you're not sending it off to the farm after it pizzed all over you.:p
     
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    To many memories. Hopefully no more of the oil bath memories!
     
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    I'd like to add some height to the beam. Also want more oil capacity. Wondering if torsion axles and larger wheels would work to get it up a bit.
    Or trailer jacks? Are they stiff enough? Would be nice to get the wheels off the ground.
     
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    I added a second tank to up oil capacity...it returns to the new unvented tank, then overflows to the existing tank.
    A torsion axle with full size wheels/tires would certainly raise it up, especially with some blocks between (if needed)
     
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    What did you end up with for total reservoir capacity?
    Also I'm a bit concerned about how thin the casting on the pump mount is. It's a pretty heavy pump to be cantilevered on something so thin. I didn't measure it but it's less than 3/8".
    One pothole away from tears.
     
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