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The Real Truth

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Mastermind, Dec 13, 2014.

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  1. clemsonfor

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    Isnt the farm boss 54cc?
     
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  2. MasterMech

    MasterMech The Mechanical Moderator

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    56. (56.5 actually)
     
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  3. clemsonfor

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    I thought that after I posted.
     
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  4. clemsonfor

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    Isnt the 310 59cc?
     
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    Yes you correct the 036 is 60cc and is a saw I happen to own and I threw out as an example.

    If I am not mistaken I believe the gains that are made are measured not by size or power but by timed cuts.
    Does that sound correct to you guys. After all in the cut is where it really matters.
     
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    Question for you guys. I have a 039 that I run a 25 inch bar on. It is primarily used for felling and bigger log cuts. I would love to speed cutting time up and power. Is the work mastermind does something I might want to look at with this saw?
     
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    He is one of the best but will let him answer that.
     
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    Most dont modd or port a clam shell saw. It requires more work as you can't easily drop the height of the jug. For the cost of the port work and maybe a tad more or the same price you can pick up a good used 044/440 that will run that bar all day long.
     
    clemsonfor, Dec 17, 2014
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    Yes it is.

    If that 039 is bone stock, a good muffler mod will wake it up just fine. Also you will need to retune the carb once you open things up but there's power to be had from that direction as well.

    As clem points out, you could sell the 039, put that money towards an 044 or even look for a really nice 038 Super/Magnum to run that 24" bar easily.
     
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    And MM is right the muffler modd will do that saw well. I bet you can get an easy 15% or more from the muffler modd.
     
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    Hey thanks guys. I like the saw so I think it be worth it.
     
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    Yes I agree I have 2 036 pros and to be honest I thought they were lacking. One of them I have already muff modded and I was really surprised by the gain in the cut.

    Since this thread is about the truth I was just asking a lot of questions on how the percentage in gains were determined and how they compare to stock saws.
    I have some saws that I have tweaked some myself with some satisfactory results but have never done any testing to see what kind of gains were actually made.
     
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    Most of what they talk about is % faster I believe. There is some dyno stuff on here and AS to show hp gains bit mostly folks talk about cut tea and how much faster that are.
     
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    I know that MasterMind was looking into getting a dyno made for chainsaws but I do not know if that ever came about.
     
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    Ok. I guess I should take one of my saws next time in stock form and time it before modding it.
     
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    We have done lots of comparisons between the same model, stock VS ported.

    I do have one odd compro for you though. I did a Echo 600P for a man in Texas, another guy that ports saws did a MS461 for the same man. The Echo 600P (60cc) I did for him will handily spank the MS461 (77cc).
     
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    that would be a let down! :( :(
     
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    Is the "other guy" considered a real logger on the CSFT thread #75 ?
     
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    The point was to point out that all port work is not created equal and what works well for one engine may be a total flop on another. Not to out any particular individual's work. If your curiosity is getting the best of you, that's what PMs are for. ;)
     
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