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Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by Luneyburg, Jan 21, 2017.

  1. Lousyweather

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    well, if you're not going over 61k btu/hr....none. Theoretically, then only time you'd see a difference is if the 61A was maxxed out and you're getting more than 61k btu/hr with the P68
     
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  2. Lousyweather

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    yup....no reason you cant do your own work! I've some customers who do a GREAT job......many more who don't.........but this is nothing you cant do well yourself, to be sure
     
  3. gbreda

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    :yes:

    LW is right on the cleaning cost being high. The P68 and I assume the P61 are easy cleaning and maintaining. Now the XXV is a bit more challenging but still not all that bad.
     
  4. Lousyweather

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    XXV isn't bad compared to an Advance, or old style Accentra Insert
     
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  5. gbreda

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    I have read that but never experienced it on the Advance. But comparing the P68 to the XXV -both which I have done cleaning/repairs on and I will take the P series any day
     
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    Fixed it for 'ya Rich. :thumbs:
     
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  7. Lousyweather

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    yep, hands down the P series are the easiest to work on and clean. But the XXV isn't far off of that.
     
  8. Rich250

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    thanks Bud :yes:
     
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  9. gbreda

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    True, its the roominess that the P series has to get at almost anything and everything.
     
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  10. DexterDay

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    If maxed out? It's 7,000 BTU. So the P68 will burn just under 1 lb more than the P61.

    The P-61 (based on 8,000 BTU per hr pellet) is 7.625 lbs per hour.

    The P-68 (based on 8,000 BTU per hr pellet) is 8.5 lbs per hour.

    But as other noted? I'd say the P61A is more than adequate. My pellet furnace is only 50,000 BTU and I rarely run it over level 3 (of 5).

    Another option depending on your house set up, is looking into a Pellet Furnace. You can get a New Fahrenheit Endurance 50F for about the price of a P-68 and it will heat your whole house (if you have a forced air furnace now. If you have a boiler? You'd have to run some duct work and that would make it not as cost effective as just buying the Harman)
     
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  11. Luneyburg

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    I have a state of the art oil system that during the last 8 years has seen very little use as I burned around 10 cord of firewood every year in my old Alpiner wood stove.
    Prior to installing the wood stove I would have to fill my oil tank 3 times a month which at the time oil was expensive costing me $1200 a month ! hurt bad financially.
    I should and will look into seeing if I could somehow incorporate using a pellet furnace in conjunction with my Oil burner. It heats glycol which is pumped to two air handlers one in the attic and the other resides in the basement . Sad to say dont know much about them(heating system) and its actually rather silly as I worked on a $800 million lab project fit out a 10 story lab building which has more mechanical stuffed above the ceiling than imaginable and incredible mechanical both in the lowest floor and mechanical penthouse. Needless to say the first Lab project I have ever worked on and I am very weak with MEP. But buttt if its on the drawings I will build it ! lol. Would love to look further into this but with that said my oil burner also heats my water which resides in a Super Store tank, not sure how that would work in the warmer seasons ? Very Very glad I went with the larger stove as until I get time and money to restore more of this old farmhouse I am running the P68 hard to keep it comfortable for my wife and animals. Comfortable is between 64 and 68 degrees when its fairly cold out . With the recent warmer weather heck its hitting above 70* during the day Hallelujah !! I am running it in Stove Mode with 5 feed rate and 6 on control with convection on max all the time most every night and when its hitting single digits she runs full bore.
    1860 2800 sq ft. farmhouse with only 3 rooms upstairs restored along with the upstairs hallway the rest is not insulated with horse hair and plaster between me and the cold. Really bad when it gets Windy and it gets Windy and Snowy alot here in the hills during the winter . Will have to spend some time researching and appreciate the mention of a furnace.

    Thank you kindly Dex
     
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  12. ivanhoe

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    Wasting a lot of heat to the outdoors:jaw: The sooner on getting the house in top shape, the sooner you can crank back the beast:smoke:
     
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    No question about it and wish it was as simple as just adding insulation, but unfortunately have structural repairs to do as well. Well capable of doing so if time (biggest problem) and finances will allow it . I have to jack one side of the house and replace the 2/3 of the sill which I have earned a living at one time doing this to old house in the mountains in Upstate NY. Most houses should have been tear downs but people from the city with lots of cash would completely restore them. Up at 3 am every morning, day of hell then commute from hell 2-3 hours and when i get home i am toasted. Shower and off to bed to do it all over again :( I have a friend another Super who went to Texas to work and is coming back, he always offers to help so when he returns I am going to take him up on it ! Going to add some pictures of some of the work I have done to date in the DIY section, like the first thing I did which was to replace the Main carrying beam, fun stuff .
     
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    I had an older 1901 country cape that I had the pleasure of doing some sill repairs too. I think I'd rather feed some lions by hand than go there again.............

    Maybe a nice petty skyscraper window cleaning gig during winter might be more fun?? :p
     
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    :faint: You must be putting at least 3 bags a day in that thing! I think the highest heat setting I've ever used is 5.5 when it was well below 0.
     
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    Cheap stuff almost , but the eagle valley just over 2 somehow maybe a bit more . Its all good though it brings me some joy getting more out of my investment the Harman that is . Sometimes I think, not often must be nice to only have to run your stove on 3-4 but then I think to myself hmmm how many people here have the glory of running their stove hard and not cooking themselves out of their homestead . Lifelong trait for myself running my Hard Earned possessions Hard ! not abusing well most of the time except when it came to motocross bikes, cars chain saws ect... Always take good care of them just run em hard . Have had my 262 XP since my logging days which I bought in 1989 and it still runs like a champ and I have run her hard .
    If something breaks, wears out Ill fix it and find joy in doing that as well .
    As far as the pellets I would as mentioned before much rather give my hard earned cash to someone in my own country or nearby country's such as Canada then buy oil and support countries that want to do none other than harm to this Great Country we live in !!
     
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