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Discussion in 'Everything Else (off topic)' started by Backwoods Savage, Feb 17, 2016.

  1. lukem

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    I used to drive an early 80's chevy with a 454 and a granny 4 speed on the farm. It would pull like a locomotive and top out at 64 MPH.
     
  2. Canadian border VT

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    hey loved that full size blazer with that tyranny... if VT rust hadn't killed it I would still have it! got to get another stick soon nephew turned 15 2 days ago and he HAS to learn to drive stick, tie a tie, already can fight and run saws, etc.... his mom can't teach him (nothing against women in general just that one) and those are requirements to get a man card... he wants a man card bad!
     
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  3. wildwest

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    :rofl: :lol::rofl: :lol: Orig was a 30(2 or 5, I forget now) with aluminum drive train for better mileage. Its now a 350, same drive train:bug:
     
  4. Horkn

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    The one I speak of had a straight 6. Straddled to that granny tranny it was painfully slow.
     
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    He is lucky to have you.:handshake:
     
  6. Horkn

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    Probably a 305. There were 302 and 307 GM small block v8s though too, but you say 302, and most folks associate that as the old pushrod 5.0 (302) Ford. The 5.0 displacement limit for trans am class racing in the 60s and 70s made the 302 happen at GM.
     
  7. 1964 262 6

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    what he said
     
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    Doubt it. The only use of the rock crusher that I'm aware of was in high performance cars...GTO, Chevelle, Nova..etc.
    You could here that sucker whine!
    Here is a short vid of one but the guy skips 3rd gear intentionally.

     
  9. XXL

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    Do Not Google This!!!!o_O
     
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  10. Horkn

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    Then what was the granny gear, essentially a 3 spd beast that Clem, WW and my buddy's chebby have in it?
     
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    WWW says it uses ATF instead of gear oil if that gives you any clues? We have no idea if Muncie or other kind. Except he is now making fun of me because I drive like a granny now:rofl: :lol:
     
  12. Horkn

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    MUNCIE SM420 1948-67 Trucks Parts List 77
    Top-loaded, tower-shift "granny-low" transmissions found in light and heavy duty applications. Cast iron case with cast iron top cover . Non-synchronized 1st, but has only brass type synchro rings for 3rd/4th. All gears on the countershaft are removable except for 1st. Early units have threads on the input shaft and do not have a front seal. Has GM casting numbers and one P.T.O. covers.
    MUNCIE SM465 1968-91 Trucks Parts List 78
    Top-loaded, tower-shift "granny-low" transmissions found in light and heavy duty applications. Cast iron case with cast iron top cover from 1968-87 and an aluminum top cover 1988-91. Non-synchronized 1st with brass synchro rings for 2nd-4th. All main shaft gears ride on bushings pressed on the shaft. The only gears that are removable from the countershaft are 3rd and 4th. Has GM casting numbers and two P.T.O. covers.
    NEW PROCESS 435 1964-72 Trucks Parts List 83
    Top-loaded, tower-shift "granny-low" transmissions with cast iron case and a rectangular aluminum top cover. Main bearings may be either ball or tapered design. Non-synchronized 1st gear, synchronized 2nd-4th. The synchro's are aluminum ring/pin assemblies and 3-4 has "pie plates". There are no brass synchro rings. Casting number is C-9XXXX.
    NEW PROCESS 4500 1967-72 Heavy Duty Trucks Inquire
    Same design as NP435 but is fully synchronized. All gears, including reverse, are helical cut. See New Process 435 for more information. Casting number is C-9XXXX


    So, I'm guessing Muncie sm465. Based on years. This one definitely had no syncros down in the first gear.
     
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    Apologize for the :Yar: Backwoods Savage ....:emb:

    Horkn, it has to be at very specific rpms to get into granny and reverse, actually I remember constantly going forward an inch to get into R, and much easier to get into granny at a very very slow roll after rpms fall. Afraid Synchro is over my head for knowledge but its a good old truck and the tranny is one of the few remaining orig parts that has not been repaired. I googled Muncie a few posts back and that is excactly what the shift stick looks like.
     
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    We had an '84 F150 with a first gear that couldn't be used unless towing dad's boat up Everest:rofl: :lol:
    2nd-4th gears any other time. 4 low felt strong enough in 1st gear to pull down a skyscraper....:thumbs:
    302 motor.
    Gooder truck.
     
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    I had a car that would slip out of Park without any help so I used the E brake to make sure it didn't go anywhere. I've been in the position of trying to keep the car from backing itself out of a parking space, unlocking the door and stepping on the brake. Not fun, but probably funny to watch :rofl: :lol:.
     
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    That fella's on the ball... :yes:... :rofl: :lol:
     
  17. 1964 262 6

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    m22 muncie 4 speeds are hot rod sticks that aren't truck heavy duty. the real good car 4 speeds are aluminum case not cast iron. the rock crusher name comes from straight cut gears and the whining noise they make .they handle good horsepower and because of restorations have become pricey.