Small engines, fuel with ethanol.

Kind of like Sta-bil but i think it has a few more ingredients. Stabilizes the fuel and conditions it.

 

I read the product description several times on their website and it looks to me like they are the same products in different concentrations and colors. The marine says it is for ethanol but if you read the product description the red stuff says "Effective in all gasoline, including Ethanol blends". I decided to stick with the red stuff I always used after reading through all the products they sell and finding the descriptions a bit ambiguous. My $.02

 

I've also had no issues with ethanol in my gas. I use the marine sta-bil at fill up, but still not sure how it aids with the ethanol - wish I did because it's a lot more costly than the red. I've always ran my saws and other two-strokes dry if storing for more than 2 weeks or so, I also run my lawnmowers dry. The only machine that I fill completely and leave for storage in the riding lawn tractor- never an issue, but I try to start it once/month during winter to get fresh fuel through the carb. ATV sees regular year round use, so no real thoughts to fuel there - just always fill with treated fuel. My PS-510 is 5 years old - never changed fuel line and always starts and runs well - never had non-ETOH gas in the saw. I'm hoping my good maintenance, fuel treatment, and running my machines dry for most pieces is keeping any problem to a minimum. It's at least 1.5 hour drive to find non-ETOH fuel, so not practical and I'm definitely not spend the $ on Tru-fuel, etc. - way too pricey and if I do eventually have a problem, I'll be way ahead in terms of $ if I need to put in a carb kit and replace a fuel line. I used to worry a lot about this fuel issue, but I've found a method that seems to work well and now I don't think about it all that much. Treat your fuel and be smart with your equipment and I think most issues will be minor. Cheers!

 

It looks to me like the marine is double the price of the red stuff but the recommended dosage for storage is 1oz per 5 gallons vs 1 oz per 2.5 gallons with the red. It works out to the same price per gallon and I suspect it might in fact be the same with a different color dye. Even the msds seems to be identical at quick glance.

 

Huh - interesting - didn't realize the dosage was different yielding the same $ per volume - that's good - but, disappointing it may be the same stuff buy green.........I felt so much better thinking I was doing something better for the gas! Ha! Cheers!

 

turf equip. is close but it would be cheaper to buy a new saw every year than to use that fuel

 

so if the stihl ultra already has a stabilizer in it is there still a need to add an additional stabilizer ? thinking not

 

I asked the same question to my saw guy and his answer was no, too much stabilizer can gum up the works.

 

I've not really had one ethanol related issue in any of my engine. 2 stroke 4 stroke. Doesn't matter. I'll explain my only issue later in the post. We've had ethanol added to our gas here in se Wisconsin for nearly 20 years now. Around here, its e10 even if you think it's non ethanol treated gas. Stations have to take gas from the trucks that deliver, even if the station says they don't take ethanol and the tanker has e10 in it.
You'll have more issues especially on 2 strokes if you use premium that's been sitting in the station's tank a while. The 87 octane is always used and fresh, while higher grades can be sitting around. Yes, ethanol will eat rubber seals and gas lines. It will also clean years of old gas deposits from fuel tanks and deposit that on your fuel filter. Had that on my nearly classic ski nautique. I had to change the fuel water separator filter a couple times when I went to running e10 in it. When I bought it in the early 2000's, the inside of the aluminum fuel tank was yellow. It's now shiny aluminum, inside and out now. The ethanol also contributed to the fuel hose needing replacement, but it was original 1978 hose. Marine hoses are date stamped. Also the needle and other rubber holley carb parts degraded too, but all of that needed to be changed anyway after all those years.