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Shield for my stove for safety

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by cezar, Dec 3, 2025.

  1. cezar

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    It'll be several inches from the stove glass and air is a fantastic insulator. It'll be fine.

    What will be less fine is trying to use the bypass handle or make air adjustments, or even just reloading. Really scratching my head how I can modify it to be able to move it around quickly.
     
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    I only have a non-contact IR "gun" thermometer and I was thinking it would "look" right through the "glass" door and see the temp of what was on the other side of it like my eyes do. So after reading this, I went down to the woodstove and took some readings "through" the window of the coals inside the stove and it read 650 F so I opened the woodstove door and took a reading of the wood stack through the same area of the "glass" thinking it would read the temp of the stack of wood behind it... But how wrong I was! It measured the same 650 F so it is getting a valid reading of the "glass" temperature. With the door open the coals inside the stove over range my temp gun (higher than 750 F).

    That surprised me. What my eye sees and what the IR temp gun sees can be very different. I knew the window would be hot, but I didn't realize that it got that hot... I've been measuring the stove pipes and stove top for years with the IR gun and never really thought about the door window temperature. I always assumed the temp reading when I pointed at the window was the temp of the coals or fire inside the box, but that isn't the case. My assumption got me again...
     
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    Agreed. trying to read temp off a glass surface with an IR gun is likely to be off by potentially hundreds of degrees either direction.

    That said that glass is RIPPING HOT regardless!
     
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    Well, this is a total non-starter.

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    It just isn't going to work and can't be modified to work. Even if I dreamed up some sort of hinge method to access the air control, the panel itself is adding danger not removing it. See:

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    Wow. You couldn't chamfer the corner on the edge of this safety component even a little bit?

    This is actively hazardous. This is probably even worse than just having a woodstove.

    I'm at a complete loss. I don't know where to go from here.
     
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    Dang, that sucks!
     
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    Any way you could build a nice oak "picture frame" around it? 1x2 oak, grooved in the middle to hold the glass?
     
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    Don't over-engineer it.

    K.I.S.S. is my way to go.

    Simple or decorative. For the few times we use it, simple wins out.

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    That's basically what we have
     
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    Very nice! If my grandson was more like 3yrs old instead of 1 yo, definitely the route I'd have taken too!
     
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    I ordered one of these type screens. Will report back after testing it out.
     
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    Ok got the screen in after several days of shipping delays. Thankfully right on time as the temperatures plummeted to zero overnight.

    I can report it works! Both from a safety standpoint and I can also still reach the air control by reaching over top of it (barely). It's also extremely light and can be moved with one hand, so reloads are no big deal.
     
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    It is sturdy enough, if someone fell against it?
     
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    Yeah I tested that out and it has enough rigidity to basically fall against the stove but support an adult up off the really hot parts, at least for the typical trip and fall sort of scenario. I suppose if you laid there against it you'd start cooking but that isn't in my threat model for this sort of thing.

    It won't keep a kid from meddling with it at all but I'm not too worried about that anymore. In other news my kid's burns are all but healed now, two weeks later.