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Discussion in 'Non-EPA Woodstoves and Fireplaces' started by yvanblo, Mar 12, 2017.

  1. yooperdave

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    I wonder if you left the air gap open if it would reduce the temp of the outside wall (150f) of the double wall? Or is that not a problem for you?

    Lots of good advice here, just keep asking!
     
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    Hmm. Others have said, but Sounds like a couple things. First of course ur chimney should be around a foot above roofline. 2 feet is minimum code I think but a foot will produce enough draw.
    If it's new your stove is still in a breakin process. Paint smells smokes or cooks off to a point. Do you see any smoke back draft. If continues then ur pipe maybe lil small..
    I know, that's not good cause it's part of the kit but often pipes in stove kits are sized smaller to lower cost and compete against other manufacturers.
    Should be at least a 5 or 6" for even a smaller stove. If it's runnin hot it's producing lots of gasses, hot gasses that need to get out fast. And that lil 3.75 is a bottleneck possibly. Good luck
     
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    Hey,
    Water does burn....

    When it's hot. Ouch.. I had to say somthing stupid.
    Smartest thing I come up w all day wife said.
    Lol
     
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  4. yvanblo

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    Yooperdave, what do you mean when you say: "I wonder if you left the air gap open if it would reduce the temp of the outside wall (150f) of the double wall? Or is that not a problem for you?"

    Oakman69, I burned the paint off outside with a few break-in fires, so the paint is not causing the smoke. The chimney is about 1.5 feet above the peak, hopefully that's good enough. When you say backdraft, do you mean smoke coming from the stove into the structure? When I open the stove door, smoke comes out, which is part of my frustration. But, when it's a big fire, the chimney works great. I suppose it's possible my fires are just too small and smokey...?

    I've been preoccupied with my kids birthday to do much out there this week, but I'm planning on having a couple fires soon. I'll post the result of what I've learned from you all, and try to give you guys more details. Thanks again for all the helpful comments and questions.
     
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    If the double wall pipe through the roof has an open gap in the pipe (between the inner and outer pipe) maybe it would be better to leave that open instead of closing it off?

    Unless I completely misunderstood you?
     
  6. yvanblo

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    The single wall pipe simply goes through the middle of the double wall pipe. The only seal is at the bottom where I made a metal 'cap' with a hole in the center to cover the bottom of the double wall pipe (if you look closely at the image I posted at the beginning of this post you will see it). The single wall pipe goes through the hole snugly, and I sealed around it.

    I've tried, and failed, a couple times now to make an upside down fire. I like the sound of it, and the fact that once it's going it will burn for a while. But what keeps happening is what looks like a lack of oxygen. Last night I got called away just as my fire was starting so I was unable to watch is, but when I came back it was out and cold, and didn't burn much more than the kindling... maybe my wood is not as dry as I thought?
     
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    Sounds like exactly the problem.
     
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    Stick another piece of pipe on your class A probably will solve your problem, more draft...
     
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    You all don't understand. It is an outfitters pack stove for a tent. It comes with 5, 16 in pieces of stove pipe/chimney that are designed to nest inside the stove for packing in. The top section has holes drilled in several rows to vent. The top does not come off.
    Here is a link to the HQ.
    HQ ISSUE Outdoor Wood Stove - 648081, Stoves at Sportsman's Guide
    So many of your suggestions are not possible. I have the same stove and have no problem, good draft, so I think it has to be the wood, or a steep sloped roof. Chief
     
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    When I started on this journey of heating our home solely with wood, I was operating on family knowledge.
    I got the same results as you- some fire....walk away....come back to fire out.
    Got some quick seasoning species and some good downed dead- started getting results. I have some 2 year(dwindling supply now) mixed stuff + oak pallet chunks to finish out the season. Last year and this year were somewhat mild, but still some really cold temps too.
    Not to beat a ded equine, but ya can't burn water:yes:
     
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    Here is a link to my post when I installed the HQ. it should shed a little light on some of the suggestions. Chief
    Wood Shed Wood Stove
     
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    This is what I was quoting when I said "sounds like exactly the problem" :yes:
     
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    I'll have to work on getting drier wood. I thought I would post a picture of my roof and chimney top so you could see what I have going on. I think I might take the top section of pipe, the one that came with the stove that has holes and a top, and remove the top rain block. It's not pictured in my attachment, because it's half way through the inside of the double wall pipe. I'll bet that the comments made about the top being restrictive are pretty accurate. I'll see what I can do... and then I'll have a fire and see what happens.
     
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    If I understand correctly, The rain cap and top of the actual chimney pipe are down inside the double wall? If that's the case I would say that is your problem. That would certainly restrict your draft. Chief
     
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    Chief, yes, you understand correctly, and I think you're right... and doing it that way was a poor choice on my part. I'll get that top cut off, and see what happens. I guess my picture didn't post on my last post. I'll get it posted in a bit.
     
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    We will get this figured out for sure! Chief
     
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    Ok, so I took the chimney down, ground off about 7 or welds, popped the end off, and had my kids help me get it fit back in place. My first fire is a success!! The amount of smoke I got in the shed is minimal, and the rest goes right where it should: up the chimney. I finally attached images of the chimney from the roof, and the stove with it's cute little air intake.

    Thanks for all of your suggestions, and helpful hints and tips! I sure appreciate it, AND I don't smell like a camp fire. Not sure it would have occurred to me to take the top off, even thought it makes perfect sense. I do need to get a better supply of wood though... I'll build a wood storage area and start a better collection than I have for camp fires in the back yard.
     

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    Now at least slide a piece of sheet metal under the stove legs for the just in case scenario, please.
     
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    Sheet metal in addition to the hardie board that's already under there?
     
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    Just a bit of ember protection, thats all.

    When I had a small stove like that, I bent a piece of metal (kinda like a cookie sheet) to lay underneath the stove for the smae reason. It did catch a few small ones that popped out while loading the stove.

    Just like the saying "An ounce of prevention...."
     
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