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Saw not cutting like it should

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by SD Steve, Apr 24, 2021.

  1. SD Steve

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    So when I first bought my Stihl MS 311 it could breeze right through everything I tried cutting. But now it doesn't want to cut in a nice easy rocking motion anymore. Even with a freshly sharpened chain, its like I have to push it through everything. It cuts great at the end of the bar and plunging but not at the back or middle of the bar. I know that I shouldn't have to fight it to cut. It also drifts down and left as I cut. Thats probably me, not holding it straight.
    I will probably buy a new chain and see if things change, because that will tell me that I'm sharpening the chain wrong.
    Maybe my bar is bent?
    What am I doing wrong?
     
  2. stuckinthemuck

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    Just like you said, buy a new chain and see how it does... that will get you started.
     
  3. JCMC

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    Have you checked the rakers?
     
  4. buZZsaw BRAD

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    X2.
     
  5. buZZsaw BRAD

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    The saw should almost "self feed" in a larger round if you hold only the throttle at full speed. Try lowering the rakers Steve. I freehand file with round file alone so im not always religious about checking the rakers. What is your sharpening method?
     
  6. Chud

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    Lay your file or any straight edge across the top of your teeth to check the gap or lack of between top edge of tooth and rakers
     
  7. TurboDiesel

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    file the rakers
     
  8. thewoodlands

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    I think this fall will be a year I've had the 311, I haven't had the problems you're having. Like some of the members said in their post, check the rakers and make sure your chain is sharp.

    I hand file my chains (freehand) and check the rakers when I feel they need it.
     
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    Can you post pictures up close of the bar, abs near the sprocket?
     
  10. SD Steve

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    Yes, I have filed them down before
     
  11. SD Steve

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    Yeah, I'll get some pictures of the bar in the morning.
     
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    Ok, I didn't get any pictures, but it seems I have taken my rakers down too far. But that didn't make any sense. It should be chewing right through, even bogging down and biting in too hard. Then I watched a video on you tube...


    2 things popped out at me....
    1. I have a bur on the edges of my bar, (I can fix that. )
    2. My teeth are different lengths. The right teeth are shorter than the left teeth.
     
  13. SD Steve

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    And thanks to Mike, I watched the video you sent me also!!:coldone:
     
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    I am not the most technical guy, but I had a bar once where the rails wore down. When I put a new chain on it, the chain could kinda roll side to side. Furst chainsaw .....tons of hours... curious to see how you make out
     
  15. SD Steve

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    Here is a picture of a new chain haging on a nail with an old chain. I knew that chains stretched but this is crazy. I never thought it would be so dramatic.
    20210427_185436.jpg
    This old chain was starting to top out the tensioner.
     
  16. The Wood Wolverine

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    Can you count drive links to confirm they are the same? Maybe you are running tension too tight. And the safety bumpers, too me, look discolored. A sign they have been heated up, probably from excessive force. I also see some damage on the cutter itself that needs filed off so it cuts properly. That side place angle is wayyyy steep and looks like it was sharpened on a grinder. A couple pics at different angles of those cutters would help us hone in on what to advise you to change. Pulling up extra hard on the saw while cutting creates a few issues. One being excessive friction (and heat) on the bar and chain. How do your bar rails look at this point? Paint gone and discolored?
     
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    Jason, is his new chain square grind?
     
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    Doesn't look like it to me. Stihl has a profile that isn't perfectly round. Look closely at any new RS, as below.
    DSC06484.JPG
     
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    The RH cutters are rolled right over for sure, stone or metal hit? Chain sure looks like it got hot, I think Jason is right on.
     
  20. Eckie

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    The used chain may have issues...but SD Steve said he has issues even with a new chain....