Rebuilt my first saw a ms362!!!!

I see what you saying but just was thinking the starter should be able to overcome compression strokes. It should on an in time engine so I wouldn't think an out of time one would slow or make it harder to crank.

Just my thinking though.

 

Hey guys let me ask you this, what would be the best, easiest way to check and see if the timing is off?????

 

Like mm said pull the cap and see if it points at #1 or away. Or a timing light. See post #58 by MasterMech on page 3

 

Is it manual? Tried pull starting it?

 

Hey guy thanks a lot.... I got a guy comin over at 330 today and take a look at ol truck.... Man I hope he can figure something out.....he will check to make sure timing is good for sure!!!!!

I swear I am goin threw withdraws from not running my saws for 2-3 weeks, other than bucking a few logs in my wood pile that were to long..... Hopefully my luck will change and it's something small, atleast a guy can hope anyway!!!

Thanks a lot Kyle....

 

So guy came buy, and he said timing seems to be good,,,,, he was alittle concerned about how much gas was comin from carb.... He came by as a favor and said he wants to jump it with the bigger box style charger.... I have never had a problem just using my little charger, but at this point I have not a clue, so I will try it....

 

If a battery is really down you sometimes have to use 2 sets of jumper cables (or really good thick cables)or one of those 60 amp starting chargers to get enough juice to start it.

So is it cranking fast? If it's spinning fast jumping it won't matter. Now if it's dragging like wah....wah.......wah then that could be a problem.

And if there is too much gas that is a problem. But if there is so much it's washing down the cylinders and to wet it's flooding out the oil will smell like gas and the plugs will be soaking wet.

 

Ya I was worried about the gas getting in the oil but I took out dipstick and tried to light it with a lighter and it wouldn't go... I took plugs out and they aren't even a year old and they had gunk on Them so I replaced them all, but they were not wet with gas..... Ya I sure a hell hope a bigger battery jumper will get her to go.... I know my little battery charger says its charger, but I guess that don't mean much?!?!?!

 

So of the batter sounds weak?, HAVE YOU HOOKED GOOD HEAVY DUDE JUMPER CABLES TO ANOTHER VEHICLE AND TRIED TO JUMP IT?

 

If the plugs were dry. I'm thinking your float bowls have a leak in them and no fuel is even getting to engine. But it's strange that it won't start on carb cleaner...which it should if you have a spark??? It's almost like you have 2 unrelated issues. Some fuel delivery issuse....I all the gas all over the outside yiu refer too and a spark issue. Two things make me beleive this. One that it won't start on carb cleaner, which it should if the ignition system was healthy. And the gunk on the plugs, like it's been firing too cool and not burning off the gunk. Or you just possibly have too cold a plug in the engine...as another issue.

 

I mean the gas is coming out of the jets just fine when you look down the carb and hit gas manually.... you you ou could be excactly right there could be 2 thing wrong at this point

 

And the gas wasn't sprayin all over, it was more like it would spurt after crankin the engine and it not starting....

 

Oh well if it's fueling down the carb throat and plugs not wet it's not flooding. And plus you said it would not start on carb cleaner so it's not primarily a fuel issue. It clearly has a problem since it's leaking but that's not stopping it from starting.

You have an ignition problem. You need to figure that out first then deal with the fuel leak.

But if you have replaced the ignition module...and didn't you say coil as well? I am not sure what else There is unless you have a chafed coil...or possible a bad coil wire to the cap?

Did you say you have fire at rhe ends of the plug wires?

 

Well mastermech, and clemsonfor, you are both badasses lol.... Anyway got some free time after work today and cleaned every damm eletrical connection I could find...after they were all clean I jumped the the ol hag and she fired up.... This is great obviously, but there is still a problem.... The power steering had been whining for awhile, and when I finally got the truck started today the power steering was completely out.... Now- I took the power steering pump off, and it was still "free" spinning, so I am wondering if the power steering pump is bad or the parts that it "powers" are bad... Any ideas....


And please understand to both of you guys, thanks so much for sticking with me on this problem, I kid you not if you guys were close to me or ever get around my neck of the woods, you got a steak dinner, and all the beer you can drink!!!!!!! Thanks a lot Kyle

 

No problem man. I learned a good bit working on my old stuff and hanging around shops.

Just trying to help hear.

But my opinion....if the pump is whining the pump is bad. Fords seem to me to go out more than other stuff, but I am no expert . Not like super common but they go out but usually it's gradual. Steering gears I don't think just go out I think they fail over time as well.

 

I mean I am no expert obviously, lol, but that's what I think to... I mean I did take it off and it spins "freely" by hand anyway, but at the speed the engine spins it who knows.... I also have no idea about the gear box that the steering pump powers.... I will research it in my spare time at work tomorro, lol..... But ya man thanks for all the help seriously!!!!!!!!!!!

 

No problem we obviously enjoy helping others or we wouldn't be here.

But I would almost say that's your problem. How long has it been "whineing"? I hate to ask but was there fluid in it?

 

Well I tell ya, I took the pump off and looked it over and then put it back on...there is a piston type thing and a spring that goes with it; and I am wondering if I put it in backwards when I put it back on..... I put the piston piece in the pump first then I put the spring in..... I am wondering if the spring should have went in the pump first.....I will try and get some pics of it after work, I get off at 430 today....if you guys have ever replaced the 78 351m power steering pump or know much about them, I will appreciate any tips or info you got...is it hard to et all the air out of these pumps....

. Also I did buy a power steering pump awhile back as I planned on replacing it.... I looked a the new pump they sold me and the damm thing is the wrong one.....thanks a lot guys Kyle