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R4's or turf tires for mowing and plowing?

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Trilifter7, Dec 11, 2014.

  1. MasterMech

    MasterMech The Mechanical Moderator

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    It depends on what we're calling a turf tire. R3 (turf) tires can still have deep lugs on them that work great for snow, especially on hard surfaces. Some turf tires have shallow lugs and a big wide profile. Sold as "golf" tires usually and these don't do snow as well.
     
  2. xskier

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    Uhh, drop your RB 60? Is that a "70"? They sure have a whine to them. In the subcompact segment there is only one, Deere 1 series. Specifically 1025, or 6, R with R4s, AutoConnect deck, H120 loader, 54 Quick Hitch Blade, iMatch, and rear implements to suit the task.
     
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    It would push the snow now problem. It is a BX2360. The 1 series is more of a yuppie tractor. They left out several important things a tractor should have.
     
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    I know right? Awkward foot pedals, radiator in your crotch, hydro fan, select control three point, and pin on loader bucket.
     
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    The 1 series does not have the power the BX has. You have to be full throttle to do anything.
    The 1 seires has less PTO HP
    You can't raise and curl the bucket at the same time on a 1 sereis
    Limited cat 1 hitch on the 1 series
    Mower deck that only raises 4'' on 1 series, BX has 6''
    No center antiscalp wheel on the mower deck on the 1 series
    The BX has a curved boom loader which gives you better visibility
    BX has 1'' more of front axle clearance
    1 series has a small operator platform
    1 series has problems with the seat bottoming out.

    There is nothing wrong with the foot pedal arrangement on a BX. It allows you to sit ''side saddle" which is nice if you are running a rear blower.
    The radiator is at the back of the engine on the BX so it sucks the air so if you are working in dirty conditions the radiator fan is not blowing dirt on the operator.
    The BX has a QA on the loader.
    A hydro fan won't leak like a oil cooler.
    Kubota invented the SCUT all others are just a copy.
     
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    I also forgot the stabilizers on the outside of the lift arms that can rub the tires on the 1 series. It seems like the dealers here put a tarp strap on them.
     
  7. xskier

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    When in doubt, whip the spec sheet out. Spoken like a true Norwegian Husqy Lover. I'm sure the bx will be just fine for you.
     
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    I didn't whip out the spec sheet. The BX is working great for me. It has over 250 hours on it with out a problem in 2 1/2 years.
     
  9. jetjr

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    i run r-4s on mine. if i mow when its to wet i get a little tear up in the turns, nothing major though. mine are filled with fluid since i have a loader would definetly advise that.
     
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    Good point MM, I was referring to actual R3 tires.

    It does sound like if I end up with R4's I will be just fine.
     
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    Thanks for the video bullit! Looks like it has no problem.
     
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    Rutting when wet is the one concern I still have with the R4's. From what I've read it doesn't sound like its too big of an issue though, like you said.
     
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    its pretty minimal. not even enough to call it ruts in my opinion, just rough spots.
     
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    Traction-wise, in my experience turf tires will do better on ice and packed snow. R4's are better in most other conditions. Put chains on the R4's and they are good across the board.

    Dave
     
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    I love my bx2330. Old skool with 1500hrs but i hate the turf tires. They suck in wet grass, mud and ice. They are ok in light snow. (Filled and weighted)

    My last tractor had R1's and on ice it was horrible even with filled and weighted wheels. It was great on everything else and they didn't year up the yard like you'd think they would.

    I'm getting R4's when I can get caught up. They offer the best traction without too much compromise
     
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    Good to know Stang. I think in sold on the R4's for the next tractor.
     
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    I think it's worth having a set of tire chains around. I put chains on my little Wheel Horse that just has turf tires and added 50lbs of washer fluid to each rear wheel along with 60lb wheel weights and the thing is a tank now. I've only plowed once with it, but it had no problems pushing 4" of wet snow uphill on my blacktopped driveway. I also had it out in the woods a few times hauling loads of wood, and it's able to go up some pretty steep hills. I have no experience with the R4's, but regular turf tires probably won't tear up the yard as much during the spring and summer, and then you can add chains when needed.
     
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    Some people will buy turfs and R4s since they are some cheap and change them out depending on what they are doing.

    You can get new wheels with tires mounted through wholegoods for $3XX.
     
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    R4s' do not have the traction I need for my conditions.
     
  20. lukem

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    R4's aren't great at anything, but they don't suck at anything either. They're a good compromise. They tear up the turf more than a turf tire, but less than a full out ag tire. They clog with mud more than an ag tire, but offer way better mud traction than turf tire does. They do well on snow, and no tire short of one with chains gets great traction on ice.

    If you need a tire that does everything relatively well then R4's are a good choice.
     
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