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Proposed EPA Regulations

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by jdonna, Feb 27, 2014.

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  1. the GOAT

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    "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- opening lines of 101 Things To Do 'Til The Revolution by Claire Wolfe


    Oops, did I say that out loud?
     
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    Behave, fellas...:mad:;)
     
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    Can we just stick to the facts, maybe we would all learn something!
     
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    What fun would that be ? :) Just kidding !!
     
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    I guess our best hope is that folks who rely on woodburning find sites like ours to come and learn from. The biggest factor in ALL of this stuff is having well-seasoned firewood. I checked out the EPA's site and they claim that 6 months is usually sufficient time to season wood?

    Misinformation right from the regulators, no? Some firewood (especially oak) needs a LOT longer than that.....more like 2 years if you're talking green oak.
     
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    Well Scotty, even a clean burning wood stove is a dirty burner compared to the gas stoves.
    Like I said before its all about the numbers.
     
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    It's actually all about votes…
     
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    Words that should scare anyone who here's it " Hi, I'm with the government and we're here to help"…
     
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    I am just stating facts.
     
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    If you guys want to talk politics that's fine I'm out, you can not change the fact that wood stoves are a dirty burn (compared to gas) even under the best conditions.
    There are some interesting side notes, not going after fire places for one reason or another mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
     
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    No politics at all, just facts. Bingo. "not going after fire places for one reason or another"
     
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    Well you said something about votes I just said they are not going after fireplaces, don't know how the numbers stack up, how many fireplaces are there now compared to the increased usage of wood stoves.
    I assume that fire places are not on the increase.
     
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    Don't get me wrong I don't like it either but I like to know what's going on to my dismay the stoves are not as clean as I thought.
     
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    I don't know the answer to this… any idea if the problem is more related to OWB smoking up neighborhoods vs. wood stoves? I've read that the short smoke pipes on many OWB lets a lot of smoke billow out low to the ground… add crap wood/plastic/tires/etc that some are throwing in… and yeah, it sure would be a problem. Wood stoves, on the other hand, old or new, tend to be plugged into chimneys exiting homes above the peak of the roofs, and most smoke is moved away by heat (up) and wind (sideways).

    Just wondering…
     
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    That's exactly what I thought (and I sure it is some what on a local level) but even the EPA stoves burnt with dry wood are dirty when compared to gas stoves so the EPA is trying to clean things up.
    They went after the 2 stroke engines ( did not like that either) a few years ago and they burn cleaner now.
     
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    No politics guys........
     
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    I thought we were doing a good job for the most part of keeping it out.
    Keep us in line Scotty.:)
     
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    You guys are fine. There's pertinent information here, from both "sides" of the issue.......
     
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    Snort… :D:axe:
     
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