Progress Hybrid rolling some awesome secondaries

Looking good.

 

I love that story. Haha

 

Hoytman,
I’m going to apologize for how long my post is but wanted to give you a heads up that I’m only writing this out as I gave it careful thought and could see your perspective.

I had an EPA stove at my old house, a Timberwolf 2200. Great stove for the $ I got it for. Kept my butter in the kitchen in liquid form, and took me hardly a minute for glass cleaning. I know I’d run it hot to “clean it. But always got corner residue so wiping it with ash and water then wiped it clean was done. Just don’t do this when the stove is flacking hot.

The discussion I saw what made this issue is how low the cat stove is being run that you can’t see in the window. So I had an opportunity to get an older Woodstock stove a Fireview and that price point never happened. However, it wasn’t just because of that it was a discussion and deciding factor. I liked seeing the rolling flames in my Timberwolf, made tv seem obsolete at times. The wood was dry, I found that if I was getting dirty glass, wood was too close to the glass. So that would be pushed back or later I’d open the air a bit. I was told that you don’t have to shut it to low all the way if you don’t want to, it doesn’t run all the way efficiently but if you’re interested in seeing flames thats what you can do.

I had gone worried that I would be too warm for the stove capabilities in a house and that would be because of living in the PNW, Woodstock stoves would be better in a much bigger house with a cooler temperatures range more often. Lots and Lots of thought was put into it when I gave it the last call to not purchase an older stove(12 years old) but knowing there will be more on the market to view later. At least I can do some smarter shopping for a stove later when those new ones come in with the regs changing. But I again found it hard to pull the trigger on the stoves that I couldn’t enjoy the flames of the whole deal.

What I wanted to find was what was the flame looking like on these stoves. This was shown in videos of WS stoves, this element of “Ghost flame” or a line of flames across the glass. I believe this is just the efficient run of the stove that turns the flame down as it uses air much less. There seems to be two parallels with stoves like this, one is you have an EPA stove that is Regulated to have air so that it is never fully shut down. The efficiency is that air is required to keep the stove running like that, it’s designed to run a stove hot regardless. You trade a more flagrant fire-show for less wood time burning (3-6+hours depending on efficiencies). The other parallel is for a catalyst stove to work, it runs hot but slower. You can get a fire-show but not on the same level as a non-cat stove. But the reload time after a burn is within 8-12+ hours
As I type this up, Im watching a few videos involving a Fireview and an Absolute Steel. The Absolute is a hybrid if I recall is the stove I’m seeing that has the most flame show and it is absolutely mesmerizing. That being said, I want a WS but likely the hybrids will have more potential for that flame to be more viewable.

If it helps that I agree in a sense that I’d want to see something happen but if I’d choose to have heat be made with wood or any of the Others (electric, oil, propane, etc),the wood heat is not a hard one. Just having a wood stove that’s best for your home and “entertainment” is important as well as its proper use to provide heat becomes a no brainer. Again I apologize for such a lengthy message, there’s just more than two sides of the viewing party and the heating party. Hopefully you have a better idea of changing your mind than I will as I was on the fence about this too. Woodstock is just on the other end of the country for this matter and built stoves for those kinds of winters not temperate ones. If the winds were to shift and blew the other way, it would likely be a different story.

 

Hey, thanks for the long reply. No need to apologize.
I don't care about seeing mesmerizing secondary's...standard flames from an old smoke dragon would suffice...only need to see those when I'm sitting there and wanting to see them. The rest of the time, I'm not there, not paying attention, or don't really care one way or the other so long as heat is coming out. Any old black box can provide the heat. If I'm going to spend that much coin...I would, however, at least like to see the glass...err...um...the flame when I want to...without too much fuss of having to clean the window. Just something about seeing that flame every once in a while...peaceful. Of course, we have bon-fires all the time outside...well we used to...every weekend...and soon we'll be back to that...I miss it. Now I have a creek and a waterfall to listen to that's within 25' of my fire pit.

My current stove is blacked out...metal where the glass was. I'll fix it soon enough...have to remove the stove and work on it. Going to keep it in the garage just in case. Might park another stove or two beside it...depending on what I find. LOL!

 

There's another side to this cleaning the window thing too as was mentioned. Not cleaning a hot glass. Generally means a cold stove...not always...but often. That means restarts. I don't like restarts.

Man...I'm picky ain't I? LOL!!!

Going to clean the glass on my Hitzer 354 black rock burner and try my hand and the 1 match club. If it don't work out, a WS may be just around the corner...might be even if it does work out...I'll build a room around that beauty.