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Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by My IS heats my home, Jul 29, 2014.

  1. Brad38

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    Thanks for the set-up info! Not trying to hijack this thread, but you guys said its slow right now anyway. :) I'm having a garage conversion done in 8-10 weeks. The red dots in my pics represent where the stovepipe/class A will be. Thanks to the advice given on a separate thread I started, I'm pretty sure I'll be going with top vent/double-wall stovepipe/rear heat shield. Woodstock recommends at least a 15' collar-cap height per the IS Manual. I'm kinda concerned, since that means a tall class A out of the 7/12 roof. (About 9'!) I realize that will probably be necessary though in light of where I've decided to have the stove installed. (Edge of roof) someone suggested I call Woodstock and speak with them about it, which I probably will. Of course I will adhere to the 10-3-2 rule. (I bet 9' will do it! Lol)
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  2. Hollywood

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    I initially had a 15 ft total height with very similar roof placement it worked but was sluggish. I added the extra section of pipe and it came to life. Keep in mind my metalbest is 7in ID not 6in. Not sure if the smaller volume in the 6 will allow for better draft at the minimum height requirement.
     
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  3. papadave

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    Right where I want to be.
    Would it be possible to put it on the l/h wall center closer to the peak in the first pic?
    How much Class A will be in the attic?
    Oh, if you want a very easy install and can swing it, get the telescoping doublewall stove pipe.
    So easy, even a caveman (or me) can do it.
     
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  4. Hollywood

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    +1 on telescoping piece.

    WS had offered a discount on any pipe that was ordered with the stove. And you can have the pipe before the stove so you can get it installed. Just somthing else to ask WS when you call.
     
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  5. Hollywood

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    No fire for me tonight, over 72*+ in the house and haven't had a stick in it since last night.
     
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  6. JA600L

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    15ft is the minimum. More is certainly better. Running a stove like this with improper chimney draft is going to be a struggle.
     
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    As per the owners manual, the chimney must be 2 feet higher then any roof surface within 10 feet of the chimney. To do it right your going to have to ugly things up a bit.
     
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  8. Brad38

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    Unfortunately not. We're opening up that area of the wall as an entry into our living room. (Which is on the other side of that wall.) you're correct- that would allow a lot more class A in the attic in that location. I'm thinking in the current proposed location, I'm only looking at 12-18" of attic space. (I haven't measured, but that seems about right given the proximity to the end of the roof.) And telescoping stovepipe it is! This caveman needs all the help he can get! Lol.
     
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    I'll probably do that, thanks! I would like the stovepipe painted to match the stove. Since I've read they will do that, it would def. make sense...
     
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    Ugh. I was afraid of that! :/ My better half will have more concerns than me about that...lol. A thought: I posted this pic in the other thread, but maybe I could have this done? (Mine would be taller) Wonder what it would cost? Seems like the lumber, plywood, vinyl wouldn't be much, but labor would be high?

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    Check your local building codes.
     
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    Brad 38, I built a chase over my Duravent chimney like your pic, so since I did mine before I found this club so I did thru wall. The clean out t makes cleaning or checking pipe 1 minute job. But I would recommend if you build it put rigid insulation on under vinyl. To insulate the chase. My chimney is 26 feet cost about 150 in materials 200 in labor. I intend to build a trap door to finish bottom this spring. 20150220_074034.jpg
     
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  13. Hollywood

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    Brad38,

    You get used to it, 20150312_090259.jpg
     
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    My insurance company said I had to have a chase and my wife agreed!:whistle: We are in a high wind area.
     
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    Your insurance company sounds like a royal pain in the A--
     
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    You won't get me to argue that!
     
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    Nice! Thanks for sharing your pic and info. If that price is comparable in my neck-of-the-woods, I would probably be able to swing that. I also wonder if a chase would improve draft much?
     
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    Thanks for sharing! How tall is that?
     
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    Right around 10ft above the roof.
     
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    That is exactly what I plan on putting in in the spring but for an oil boiler rather than the wood stove. Then a SS liner in the current masonry chimney for the woodstove, extending into the cellar (basement) for a cleanout and all should be well. I like to be able to clean the wood stove pipe from the inside of the house through a cleanout below the stove thimble.

    A little offtopic: I was considering a condensing oil boiler which can be vented with PVC but if the third heat exchanger clogs, and they occasionally do that, the exhaust gas temp. skyrockets and causes a real problem with the plastic exhaust. A direct vent is also possible but between the expense of the powered venting, and the possibility that the boiler exhaust can leave a stain on the house depending on the wind direction, I ended up with the thought that it was just easier to do the best possible thing and go with metalbestos pipe inside a chase and put the entire problem to bed.

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