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premix in a 1qt can or av gas

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by denny461, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. clemsonfor

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    I agree there.

    I hate that you have to have two sets of everything also!! Even if they mandated all metric bolts or tools or whatever you still have old stuff so we can't scrap them yet or turn them into collectors items .
     
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    Metric can be a PITA at times, but I think the biggest issue is trying to convert from standard to metric and vice versa. If I just stay in either one, it's just easier to figure out, without constantly converting via my phone.
     
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    What also kills me is an instance that ran into this weekend working on my truck. I went to change the fuel filter and on the compression fittings, one of the nuts was actually sized at 27/32". Not 7/8" or 13/16", but 27/32". I kid you not. I don't know about all of you, some of you maybe, but I do not have many wrenches that go to that granularity, especially for working on my Chevy. I would also like to add, on a side note, that it is very nice to come to a forum that is not full of people trying to make others feel stupid. I got spun up on another (undisclosed) venue and did not receive the same treatment. It was not firewood related, but I could not wait to get back to a community of helpful folks. Many thanks.
     
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    Ya, I do know how you feel. I have, over the years, joined many different newsgroups on many different subjects and this is one of the easiest to get along with groups. Yes, some of us, are less than knowledgeable at first (talking about me), but we can learn fairly quickly. However, the absolutely worst forums, was back in the BBS/usenet days trying to learn linux. Now those guys would chew you up and spit you out without as much as a "how do you do".
     
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  5. ironpony

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    Actually on line fittings 32 nds are very common so it's worth having one set of those wrenches I have an old set of craftsman open end wrenches that has all of 32 nds
     
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    Definitely learned that one, so now I am better prepared. I used them a lot when I was doing more complicated repair work, it just caught me off guard this weekend. Thank goodness for adjustable wrenches, right?
     
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    There great until you leave one in the header of your chopper. :headbang:
     
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  8. Oldman47

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    Metric vs SAE or other US standards hits closest to home for me on tropical fish forums. Most of them are truly international in membership and if you can't quickly convert temperatures F to C and back in your head it can be very frustrating. When participants live in South Africa, the UK, Canada, Australia and the US we are each most comfortable in our own native units but when someone talks about keeping a tank at 25ºC it sure is handy to know they mean 77ºF. When someone talks about what can be kept in a 150 liter tank it is nice to know that is about a 40 gallon tank. By comparison, wrench sizes are easy with a 13mm being very close to a half inch.
     
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  9. MasterMech

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    Keep Fahrenheit and miles (short term) while we slowly start to think metric. Lose the fractional fastener sizes immediately. Teach metric in schools so our kids grow up speaking fluent metric with Imperial units as a "second language".

    One advantage that we have to using the fractional measurements is that we can do mental arithmetic in fractions much easier than others. Ask a European fellow how many donuts are in 3/4 of a dozen.
     
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    You might and I might be able to do fractions but I promise you most of this country can't!!!

    They do teach the metric system in school. I remember years of it being beat into my head. Like I said I can't exactly remember the C to F and vice versa formula but I know its something to do with 9/5 or 5/9 and plus or minus something . But with phones and google I just ask it now.
     
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    You can teach it in schools all you want but if folks don't use it, it will be forgotten. Folks will never let go of imperial measurements/units unless US govt/industry get on-board and make a serious effort to standardize.
     
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    Your correct. I also could understand spoken french and kind of say basic things. Can I now....not really. I can still remember many words but thats it.

    And I didnt learn it in tech school or college. We did learn it in elementary/middle and HS. Thats where what I remember is from.
     
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    Oh yeah, working in the hydraulics business, I see all the fun sized fittings.
     
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    I can get 93 non-E less than 5 miles from my house for $2.64 a gallon.
     
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    I have been experimenting with the premixed cans. I like it, but am up in the air on the cost issue. Saws run excellent on it. I purchased 3 of the Husqvarna XP fuel when I got my 550 so I could get the 4 year warranty. Well, after using those I bought some more at lowes. Not 100% sure why either. It didn't seem like I went through the first three quarts all that fast, but then again I have not used my 70cc saw that much since I "switched". Which is one of the reasons maybe that this fuel is appealing to me? 50cc has always been my mainstay and does 80% of the cutting I do. That said, right now the 70cc saw has the XP fuel in it and I'm not one bit worried that it hasn't been ran in a couple months.

    I worked in a small equipment shop for a few years and quickly became aware of the problems that corn squeezings can cause. 50% or better of the engines I looked at had fuel/gummed carb problems (mainly Honda GX series). I am also one of the "fools" who runs premium fuel in my pickup. I do so because my owners manual suggests it for better performance. Now before anyone goes off on the premium performance thing, my truck has variable valve timing and can adjust for the higher octane fuel, which nets me higher mpgs. Not enough to notice unless you are paying attention, but enough to justify the increased cost IMO. Now if I were going through 4-5 quarts on each outing, I'm sure the higher price would be a much larger factor for me like it is to the professional guys who use 5 gallons of mix a week. The 550 seems to sip fuel and makes the amount of cutting I get done seem fairly practical even with the higher cost of the canned fuel.


    Are any other members using the high dollar stuff? What are your thoughts? How much fuel do you use in a typical cutting session?

    Edit: I have access to 90 oct ethanol free fuel, but it's 25 miles out of my way meaning I spend an hour and burn 3 gallons of gas just getting to & fro plus have to buy the premix oil and pay an extra .45/gallon for the fuel.
     
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    My 555 seems to run forever on a tank of fuel!!! I remember we that when I was doing the carb set procedure!
     
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    Yep, in modern engines with variable timing, it does make a difference. Not for the reason most people think ("hotter fuel" - not), but because the engine can detect and use the higher octane.
     
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    Make and model/engine of your pickup? That's interesting and unusual that it can use the premium fuel. Most pickups are plenty happy to guzzle regular.
     
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    I have heart that the Toys with VVT will get slightly better on premium. Like he said you won't notice uNess u keep track. Say from 18 on regular to 18.5 or 19.2 on premium but a difference. Also the liturature and manual for my two Toy SUV refer to test data and such using 89 octane and that they recommend it but 87 is fine and will not do damage.
     
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    Depends on the premium you pay for 89. Around here the 87 is going for 1.299 but there is a 20 cent premium charged for 89. That means the mileage difference would need to be at least 15% just to break even. 1 gpm on a base of 18 just adds up to about a 5.5% improvement. With my local pricing structure I would be sticking to 87 octane.
     
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