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Picked up an Englander NC30 today...

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Marvin, Dec 9, 2018.

  1. HDRock

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    That makes sense, I didn't think of it that way
     
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    Nope.... one of those that I’d like to, but almost don’t need it for my small area... the living room is always hot... my problem is getting and keeping that heat to the bedroom & upstairs... I use a fan in the hall way to push cold air into the living room...
     
  3. Marvin

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    I plan to run the fan once the real winter weather starts here. I just haven't needed to run it yet other than flipping it on just for a test run to see how it did with the deck on. It definitely helped to move some heat that is for sure.

    This weekend was in the upper forties with another 2" of rain and nothing but mud everywhere :mad: They're calling for the same kind of thing at the end of the week. It's time for a solid freeze. I'm sick and tired of mud!
     
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    Me too, I have one at the end of the Hall By the bedroom doorway Blowing down the hall, towards the stove room, Works good .
    I also have a fan on my mantle That blows behind the stove pipe Across the ceiling and Forces hot air Down the hallway , So I have a good circulation of Air And it works really good With the combination of the two
     
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    If it smells like a brush fire, you need more air. If it smells like a charcoal grill with wood chips added, you're burning a touch low. If the smell loses all the nice things about smoke smell and seems kind of sharp or metal like, you're burning hot. I like being a touch low.:D Myself I don't worry if my stack seems to have whisps of smoke as long as I'm not rolling coal.
     
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    That was my thought on not running the blower with the deck on top of the 30NC (why you added a switch)

    When we do have a fire and don't run the blower, we always remove the deck. The fear is you are trapping more heat on the stove top plate.

    It wasn't designed with a deck and I've seen several pics and videos of them warping due to overfire.

    I've taken many pics and given my "Hillbilly rigged" (and proud of my heritage:rofl: :lol:) dimensions to several here. It's been a few years but I was one of the early members to do this. Maybe the first on FHC?

    The 30-NC gets hot.. Very hot. It's the reason this stove is so efficient in emissions. And you don't have a deck.


    Agreed :handshake:. My flue temps get very high.... As do the STT. :eek:

    But with the stove not being designed to have that deck? It still worries me with higher than predicted temps for the stove top. Without that airflow it could cause a problem? It may not, but is definitely more susceptible to have them. That's why I'd want the added air flow.

    If you dont run the blower Marvin ? I'd suggest removing the the convection deck. It is probably hurting the radiant heat performance of the stove.
     
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    That's why I mentioned the fact that my stove was designed And built for a deck on it .
    As far as I remember you are the first one with the idea to Fabricate and put a deck on the NC 30 .
    It's great to be able to learn from Other people That have the same exact Stove .
     
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    I took the deck off for now. It hasn't been very cold the last few days and the house has stayed plenty warm without using the blower. I am looking forward to some actual winter temps to put it back on and see what it can really do.

    I may have figured out how to operate this thing finally. I was watching a video today of a guy doing a review and explaining how he runs his NC30. I think I have been so worried about the thing running away that I've been cutting the air way too early. I now leave it wide open until the flue temps get to about 800* and then cut the air back. I think the sweet spot for me is about 3/4" open from fully closed. I'll post the video below for anybody that is interested.

     
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    Just don't cut it back all in one adjustment...good way to get a big backpuff(s)! :startled:
     
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    I'm gonna keep tinkering with the air to see how much control I have over burn times, temps, etc.

    I think my biggest problem was worrying too much about flue temps. I was convinced if they got that high I was losing all of my heat up the flue. I was expecting to see temps comparable to a cat stove :emb::picard:
     
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    No you are not going to see temps comparable to a cat stove , A local dealer here has a BK Princess Set up and functioning In their store, And you can put your hand On the Single wall stove pipe while it is running
     
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    Yeah I'm not sure how I came up with that idea.
     
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    I latch the door at about 350-400, let it run up a little more, and then set the air at about 1/2 to get the heat I want. Mostly I watch the flames, but that is what the stack probe is showing.

    Wide open until 800 then to 3/4 open is a little "aggressive" on my setup, but whatever works there is right for you.

    No need to worry about run away - if the door is latched, it is well behaved and very responsive to air changes.
     
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    Probably because of cat stove users Posting information, Pertaining to tube stove users , Apples and oranges.
    Opps I had a wrong word in there, Auto correct
     
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    Kuuma wood furnace (no cat) can do this too, under the right conditions...(only wood furnace to be able to pass the EPA's 2020 emissions regs so far)
     
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    I fell for that one as well at first.

    Yup, this.
     
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    :yes:
     
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    When we changed from a masonry to a stainless steel chimney I thought the SS was getting a little bit warmer than I thought it should at first , but I figure if a wood stove is only 70% efficient and 30% is going up the chimney then it should be a bit warm.
     
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    I got my NC30 going good for the first time last night. Set off the smoke alarm twice from the paint burning. Had to choke it down to stop the smoke (and smell). I plan on getting it hot again today a few times to hopefully finish off the paint burn during the day where I can open some windows and the front door to prevent the smoke alarms going off again.

    Even with a fairly small load burning slow all night, I had enough coals this morning to get her going again no problem.


    +1 . I got the upgraded blower. At 100% it is pretty loud, but at 75% it is nice and quiet and puts out almost as much air as at 100%.
     
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    Yes, at 75% it is just about perfect.