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pelpro pp60 anybody have one?

Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by Pallet Pete, Oct 5, 2014.

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    Ok I just got off the phone with pelpro. They have great service by the way! Any whoo no I can not go up inside and out it has to be straight out then up. That is fine I can move a hole later and seal the old one. At least I can go up.... Now the issue is distance to a window. The manual states

    1) not less than 48" below
    2) not less than 48" horizantal
    3) not less than 12" above.

    Or not less than 12" below, horizontal or above a permanently sealed window.

    If this means what I think this means I can't install anyways... I havnt got 4' between windows anywhere in my lower floor dining room or living room.

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    1) not less than 48" below
    2) not less than 48" horizantal
    3) not less than 12" above.
    Pete, As I understand you, you will go out and up. If you go 12 or more inches above the window, are all set. If you had a window the left or right of the vent opening within 48 incher, or if it was under a window within 48 inches then that would fail unless it was a non opening window. In the case it is 12 inches. I seen folks just screw the sashes together to get an non opening window.
    If you are 12 inches above the windows, you should be all set. Call them back. show them what you plan, get endorsed.
     
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    Did they say why? Doesn't make any sense...

    I never liked that company anyway. This further beats that into my brain.

    The up and out is better on the stove (doesn't get as dirty as fast), and on the operator (can clean from inside).

    I noted the window clearance a page or two back I believe? But if you go 1 ft above the window line, then it can be right next to it.


    I get it is beyond your control. I know it has to be frustrating.

    So...... Sell that stove and buy a Harman (or any other Manufacturer for that matter). But a Harman can be installed within 18" of a window (with an OAK installed). Or just go up 1 ft above your window, then out (with any stove.. But a Pelpro). Easy Peasy.. ;)
     
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    So that's not the point where it goes through the wall it's the point where the flue terminates? Where the exhaust exits that has to be 48 or 12"? If so PRAISE THE LORD! I can install!
     
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    Very true. It's 48" to an opening/operating window.. Seal that bad boy shut!! ;) lol Couple screws and a small 2x3 wedged in the top.. :thumbs:
     
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    Yep. The vent can be one foot above the window. Your vent can run right up the side of the house, then once you are 12" or more above the window, use a 90, then put a cap on it.
     
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    Just double checking lol.. I could put the thimble right next to the window in the wall as long as the exhaust exits the chimney 12" or 48" away from the window?
     
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    Run it by the powers to be, the company and the inspector before you cut. But it is the where the vent dumps that is the issue. The pipe itself has to be a certain distance from a combustible surface. Fax a penciled drawing or a marked up photo to the company and see if they fax an answer back. Then you can show the installer that your complied.
     
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    I've got them on the old tellie right now or rather they have me on hold.:D O MY GOODNESS I'm getting excited it's looking possible yet! :hair::hair::dancer::cheers:
     
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    Good luck Pete. At least this brainless inspector is holding you to the manual. The fact that they don't endorse the same install that Harman does tells me there are issues. What I don't know. Most any other stove have that as an Ok install.
    Wish you could go with a different stove that has a few more BTUs and it more realistic with the installs.
    here is an example from Englander. Very affordable stove.
    It is the outside termination.
    Notes on termination of Pellet Vent Pipe from NFPA 211 (2006 ed.) Section 10.4 Termination: 10.4.5 (See also “INSTALLATION” section of manual AND additional notes above):
    1. Not less than three (3) feet above any forced air inlet located within ten (10) feet. 2. Not less than four (4) feet below, four (4) feet horizontally from, or one (1) foot above any door, window or gravity air inlet into any building. 3. Not less than two (2) feet from an adjacent building, and not less than seven (7) feet above grade where located adjacent to public walkways. The exhaust exit shall be arranged so that the flue gases are not directed so that it will affect people, overheat combustible structures, or enter buildings. Forced draft systems and all parts of induced draft systems under positive pressure during operation shall be installed gastight or to prevent leakage of combustion products into a building. Through-the-wall vents shall not terminate over public walkways, or where condensate or vapor could create hazards or a nuisance. Be sure to follow local codes and all manufacturer’s instructions (including exhaust pipe). Consult a professional installer and/or call Technical Support if you have any questions
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    Larry if I could swing another stove I would. We got this almost new for $400 and most of the piping free thanks to 343amc and the previous owner. I can sell it for $600 probably and pay another 400 to 500 for a better one but that's just not in the cards this year. All in all we will be in about $1200 dollars for the stove, thimble, T, hearth and two 90 pipes plus two tons of pellets.. I've scavenged long and hard to get all this together on the $1000 we saved. That's literally all I can do right now. I've actually gone over $200 because I broke down and bought a hearth today that was on a good sale for$229. I haven't got enough time to build another like I did on the wood stove.
     
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    Pete, the vent has to be 12" above the window. It also has to protrude a foot away from the house. But it has to be 1 foot above.

    Go above the window line, then put on a 90° and the cap. Bingo..
     
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    I totally agree with this. He has had too much bs given to him so I'm hoping he get either the co. Or inspector to give his install plan their blessings.
     
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    STOP! Hope you have not cut any holes.Go to pelpro website and the install video shows installing up and out,for that stove!
     
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    Lol on it! Thx..
     
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    Just goes to show you the inspector and the pelpro employee did not do their homework or job.Kind of amazed as they are sold through hearth and home.
     
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    They freely admitted that was there budget line too.. For all the crap im extatic they actually take calls and try to help. Thats rare indeed.
     
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    Well I was helping the neighbor,then finished cleaning the path from kitchen to living room so he and I can move my accentra over "in front" of the window(have to post a picture of thimble) and was thinking why they would not want an inside verticle,grabbed a beer and researched it.Show that vid to the inspector(be very nice) and he will let you do anything.I only fix stoves on the side(ase mech by trade) but "did" party at a holiday inn before.
     
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    Good catch bro. This will save him a lot of headaches.
     
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