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Newbie... Need Install Advice For Farenheit Endurance

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  1. Triple A Arsenal

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    Oh ok, I didn't know it went over the set temp. Now I understand! Thanks
     
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    All stats vary. I have 3 stats and all work different.
    (I will use a 2° swing in all examples with stat at 70°)

    1- As 343 described above if set a 70°. It will call for heat until 71° and then kick off until 69°. (1° above and 1° below)

    2 - If set at 70°, it will call till 72° and then will kick off until 68° ( 2° each way of set point)

    3 - If set at 70° will call till 70° and then kick off till 68° (2° below setpoint)

    So you need to run your stat up until the call for heat, then down until heat demand is met. So you know where the swing is.

    If your swing is below like in my #3 example, then you want you heat set to what you actually want 72°. Then it will cool down from there.
     
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    If I had it set at 75 and at 75 it was still calling I think mine is #1 or #2 on your list. My lux is option #3, it cuts off as soon as it hits set temp. That's why I was like WHATTT?? Didn't know they vary like that.
     
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    Figured it out, thanks DEX. Pro1 stats swing same degree each way. So my 2 degree swing turns my stat on 2 degrees before and off 2 degrees after. I don't really like the after swing but it's what I have.
     
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    I saw for the first time the LCD said POT CHANGE. I looked in the manual but nothing about this.

    I did have it in TSTAT mode last night. Thermostat set to 74 but all night it was only about 69. This morning it was 67 and it said POT CHANGE and I had no flame. Few minuts later it said SHUTDOWN LOSS OF FLAME.
     
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    :popcorn: the tweaking has begun. Wish you well on the troubleshooting.
     
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    Was there pellets in the hopper?

    A loss of flame is normally from 3 things.
    1. Someone forgot to feed it :)
    2. Your trim settings for level 1 are not set properly.
    3. Improper draft (to much air /this also relates to number 2 above/to little fuel).


    Default is auger 3 and draft 3. I set my auger to 5 and draft to 3. This way I am still getting the most heat out of the unit, even when it's not calling for heat (house does not cool down as quick and flame won't go out)

    Pot change is just that. Your furnace self cleans every 9 hrs or so (depends on what fuel setting you are running. P Pellet has a much longer cycle time between cleaning, compared to high moisture corn which may do it every couple hours).

    Your burn pot consists of 6 different parts. 3 of those 6 move. There is a reburn plate that comes out over the actual fire in the burn pot. A new fire is established on top of this plate. Once a good flame is established, the back of the burn pot comes forward (like a bulldozer) and pushes the front of the pot (like a door) open and then the ash is pushed into the ash pan below. The pusher cyels back and forth twice (flame gets really lazy) then the new fire gets dropped into the burn pot as the top plate retracts back to its home position.

    Here is a small video. When the flame gets really lazy, os when the pusher plate is extended and front of pot is open (this happened twice). Then about 1:20 the new fire is dropped down into the pot.

    Fahrenheit Endurance 50F:
     
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    I realized my draft and auger were on 1:faint:. Which cause the flame to eventually go out. But I put the draft to 3 and auger 3 and it's been fine for 24 hours. I was thinking about fuel savings, but Dex has a point. I am gonna give that a try, auger to 5.

    I also bumped tstat to level 4 because 3 couldn't keep the house over 69 with these temps and it ran and ran because tstat called for heat. I had it set to 72. Now on level 4, it hits 74(have 2 degree swing) with no prob at least for now with temps in the 20's.

    Let me know what you think of the flame and what it says about how it's running, still lots to learn!

    What are you guys averaging per day or 24 hour period?
    -My first day was level 5 manual and in 24 hours it ate 2 bags.
    -Next day was hard to tell cause it went out and I don't know for how long or when.
    -Last night it was almost empty so I put 1 bag in, this morning still had plenty but dumped a second bag till I get home. If it last till 5 then it's still at 2 bags average.
     
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    You could definitely close it some. :)

    The newer models burn night and day different over the old ones.

    I run mine just a tad slower than what you have there. You'll get higher air temps by slowing it a little. You want to avoid a sooty firebox. As long as your ash stays a whitish grey, to a light brown. You should be good to go.

    But that damper can be closed a bit more. Make sure to use the screw so it is locked and stopped on it (Almost need to keep the OAK off until you get the draft dialed.

    Looks good. And level 4 is what I am using currently.
     
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    I would say the damper is 70 percent closed. It came screwed stopped at about 60 percent. I had to back the screw out a little to allow it to go down a tad more.

    The new ones must be different, here is the flame on 4 or 5, can't remember. And damper full open the first night.

     
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    The first 9 seconds is the ignitor pump on. That is why it literally looks like a blow torch.

    But yeah, I would close it a tad more, then see what the ash color looks like after a day or so.

    If it idles a lot, it will soot a little, but it isn't much to worry about. One good heat cycle cleans it up.
     
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    Oh ok, was wondering why the sudden change in color and intensity. When you say ash color, you mean check in the fire chamber or the ash pan?
     
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    You won't have to check anywhere special. After a few days of burning, that ash will be EVERYWHERE!
     
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    Oh boy lol, have you bought an ash vac?
     
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    On days that aren't cold (30 or above during the day, 20 or so at night), I go through between 1 and 1.5 bags. When it stays in the teens for highs, I go through 2 bags. We've been keeping the house at 67 this season. Seems to keep the pellet usage down a bit and it's still comfortable for us.

    Last January I burned 59 bags. So far for this month I'm at 35. Unless SHTF in the next 9 days I should end up less than a ton for the month. :thumbs:
     
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    That's great!! What's the swing on your tstat? 69 is comfy with a 1 degree swing. I leave the stat at 72, cause if I go lower than 70 it gets chilly. I have it set for 2 degree swing. But the house goes to 74 because of the swing also lol. So it's toasty!
     
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    I leave the stat at 67 with a 2 degree swing (on at 66 off at 68). The stat is in the hallway, and the family room/kitchen/dining area has cathedral ceilings, so the living room is usually a bit warmer than the hall. There is a ceiling fan than runs on low 24x7x365, but is reversed in the winter. That helps push the heat from the ceiling down.

    When I use the wood burner, it'll jump up to 73 or so pretty quick, and that's when I start seeing windows get opened. I figure save some pellets and put on a sweatshirt rather than burn more and see a window cracked because someone got too warm.

    In the summer, we usually have the AC set at 72 or so as neither of us like it much warmer than that. Guess that means I'm a true northerner. :)
     
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    Guess that means I'm a true northerner. :)
    There you go, northerner:cheers:
     
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    Why don't you set your stat according to your swing?

    Set the stat for 68° and it will stop at the 70° you want?

    Or drop to 1° swing each way and split the difference. Set to 70° and it will shut off at 71° and cool to 69°.


    And No ash van I hate them. I use a 6 gallon Shop vac with HEPA filter and Drywall filter bag inside. Works 10x better than an ash vac
     
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