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Newbie... Need Install Advice For Farenheit Endurance

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  1. Triple A Arsenal

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    I took it off tstat mode for the time being to make sure it's running right. I have it on level 5 to see if the blower stays on and if the house heats up. What else should I do? Any adjustments?

    The flame is small for level 5, I have a video but won't let me post it.
     
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    Open the damper up all the way. The "factory "position isn't a position at all. It is to be set by you

    More air will equal a larger and hotter fire.

    Only on level 1 and 2 does my blower kick on and off. On 3 or above it runs constant
     
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    Or drop your "off" Temp to 90° and raise the on temp to 160°.

    This gives the blower a longer run cycle

    On level 4 and 5 your flame should be bouncing off the top baffle plate.

    Fahrenheit Endurance Bio-Mass Furnace:
     
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    That flame is level 3 and without some of my current mods. That video is from 2 seasons ago.

    Once I run though a few more percent of LP, I will be starting my Pellet furnace up again and will update with a new video of its burn on 3, 4, and 5.
     
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    If open all the way, what are the negative effects ?

    Also what would make the flame burn small? Fuel type is set to 10-p pellet

    How about auger feed rate?
     
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    I can't see the actual damper cause the duct is on but the screw on stops it from closing. I am able to lift the little handle up which should OPEN it, correct?

    Flame gets to the height of pellet chute.
     
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    When the damper is open, it should be level with the intake/floor/etc. Or straight back to the wall.

    Negative effects are minimal when you are finding where it needs set.

    I would open it all the way, and if the blower doesn't run constantly, then there has to be a problem
     
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    So the blower only runs constant on Level 5. Since the house was 66 degrees I left it at level 5 to get some heat and the blower ran constant. It was like 80 degrees over night so this morning I dropped it to level 4 and same thing with blower, on for 2 minutes then off.
    The flame still is very low even on level 5 with damper fully open.
     
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    When I first fired up the furnace it did roar and it was a big high violent flame.
    Maybe because I primed it and had lots of pellets in the pot. After awhile until now the flame doesn't go to the top anymore.

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    Now it's your turn to troubleshoot your flame height:popcorn:
    Looking good, like Dex would say, a little tweaking will get you going:dex:
     
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    Didn't you have a flame intensity or height problem?
     
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    Depends on how you set your On/Off temp. The temps mine are set at, and my install allow for my blower to run constantly whenever the furnace is at level 3 or above (or whenever the tstat is calling for heat). When on level one or two, it will shut off for several minutes and on for several minutes.

    There is no need to prime the pot on an auto light.

    When you first start your furnace, it is in level 5 for 20-25 minutes while it stabilizing. No matter what you do it will always run full bore. So whatever you flame looks like there, that is level 5.
     
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    Oh I only primed the auger when I first loaded it. I only put 2 bags in since I have another kind to try. It's been almost 24 hours, and all night on level 5 plus all day at level 4 burned almost 2 bags.
     
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    Level 5 now..... I spoke with Matt at Fahrenheit. He said the furnace itself looked like everything was working good after trouble shooting. Said he thinks too much air or type of pellet might be the culprit. So he said to remove the air inlet duct and see if flame jumped up. Nothing changed, I covered the inlet flame flame went high. So put the damper at default setting which he said is normally ok for most homes. So I closed little more and much bigger/hotter flame. Still hear and feel the cold being sucked in for sure.
    He said to call him back tomorro, but what are the effect of closing the damper so much. It's still open but not as much as it comes set. Does cutting the air down create black soot or creosote?
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    Hard to tell in that pic but it looks like you need a bit more air to liven up the flame a bit.

    Not enough air will cause soot/black glass over time.
     
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    I don't know too much (shut up Smoke)... but I agree!
     
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    I agree as well.

    Maybe the newer furnaces come with very good airflow and it needs closed.

    Can you record a small video?

    That would tell us best what it's doing for sure
     
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    For the record, mine is closed about 40%, but, not only have I added the newer parts your furnace has, I have also modified the burn pot and plugged holes that are completely unnecessary when burning pellets (or most any other biomass besides corn).



    I was going to refire my furnace today, but didn't get time. I should be firing it tomorrow and will post a video of the flame on level 4 and the damper wide open, and where I like to keep it.

    It won't hurt to run it a little rich for one night. But to little air means incomplete combustion of pellets and less heat. To much air will always result in a clean burn, but air travels faster through the system (I have not noticed a drop in temp when running damper wide open, but I understand the concept and have had 4 years to fine tune my setup).
     
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    If I open more, the flame gets smaller. I will see over time if it creates soot. Right now I am getting a nice flame on level 3 like in Dex's video. And 5 puts out like a beast! My wife said on level 5' " is that even safe?"
    Hahah that was good! :MM:

    I am still learning my new tstat. It has up to a 4 degree swing. I had it set to 75 degree and even when it hit 75 it was still calling for heat. I turned the temp down until it stopped calling and it took me going down to 72 to click off. What does this mean? Also the swing has a minus and regular numbers.....confused now lol.
     
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    A 4 degree swing should mean that it will call for heat 2 degrees below the set point and stop the call for heat 2 degrees above the set point.

    Mine is set for a 2 degree swing. I set the stat at 67 so it calls for heat at 66 and off at 68. My furnace only does high/low and it works well.

    Last season I ran in manual mode most all season. This season it's been exclusively in stat mode. We're keeping the house a couple degrees cooler, but my pellet usage for the season is about 1/2 ton less than the same time last year. Some of that is due to the weather but some I think is due to not having the house run up to 73 or so like it did last year on manual mode.