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Discussion in 'The Wood Market' started by rmarlatt4, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. rmarlatt4

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    You can go to the US forest service office off 410 and buy 2 cord permits for $20.
     
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    A warm welcome from the BC Rockies rmarlatt4 :handshake:
     
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    Whats your favourite firewood?
     
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    I get more wood than I know what to do with through Craigslist ads. and the nice thing is its already cut into rounds and free
     
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    welcome to the club
     
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    That would be nice if it's free.
     
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    I like tamarack if I'm west of the cascades or we have a lot of yellow fir
     
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    what is yellow fir?
     
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    I call it yellow it's doug fir. If you go east of the mountains you can get a doug fir with more of a white grained wood
     
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    rmarlatt4 Im with you on those wood species. My go to wood is larch and then fir. Lodgepole pine makes up a lot of my stacks as there is lots of it out here. I enjoy birch when I can find it but its a pita at times due to rot.
     
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    Take there is no shortage of lodgepoles
     
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    Yeah Im not sure of the percentage but maybe 40-60% of our forest is lodgepole with larch being the next prominent. With the pine beetle almost gone from our local forests most of the beetle kill is falling over from rotting at the base. Dont see to many red trees anymore. Not complaining mind you.
     
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    But then what? Do they show you some areas like they do with Christmas trees? Or do you just drive until you see a down tree? I'm not picky about species but driving for four hours per cord adds hugely to the cost.

    I did the craigslist thing this year and it was ugly. Flakey sellers, competing with other buyers that would do stuff like paint logs to claim them as sold, hours on the road. Maybe I'll try again if the usfs thing from marlatt works out. I have a weekday off of work every other week that would be perfect for scrounging.
     
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    Mt. Baker-Snoqualmie National Forest - Forest Products Permits
    Firewood Permits
    You can pick up a personal-use firewood permit 8 a.m.- 4:30 p.m. Monday-Friday at Forest Service offices in Sedro Woolley, Darrington, Verlot, Skykomish, North Bend and Enumclaw. Phone ahead before visiting to make sure permits are available.

    • Permits cost $20 for two cords of wood, up to a limit of six cords per person, per household, per year,
    • Each ranger district sets the available use days of the firewood permits for 14 to 30 calendar days from the date of issue,
    • A permit allows you to collect firewood; it does not guarantee availability,
    • Permit sales are final and not subject to refund, extension of time or transferable.
    Gather firewood within 50 feet of the edge of Forest Service roads. Carry your permit and driver’s license when cutting, removing or transporting wood. The person holding the permit must be present during cutting, removal and hauling.

    Only cut and remove dead and downed trees within the clearing width of the roadway or within an area designated by permit. A cat, skidder or other heavy equipment cannot be used. Do not block Forest Service roads when you gather firewood. Scatter tops, limbs and other slash so that it is within 18 inches of the ground and doesn’t block access routes or ditch lines.

    Follow fire restrictions when gathering, cutting and hauling firewood; click for fire precaution levels. Chainsaws must be equipped with a spark arrester device.

    Do not cut or remove:

    • Trees marked with orange paint, signs or flagging,
    • Standing trees, whether they are dead or alive,
    • In areas posted “No Firewood Cutting” or “Timber Sales Area,”
    • Any species of cedar,
    • Lengths longer than six feet.
    When transporting firewood:
    Attach colored load ticket in a visible location on the back of the load with the current date punched out,
    Fill out the Product Quantity Removal Record on the front of the permit with each load removed.
     
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    Thanks elder, there are a ton of downed trees right now. Fire road 70 just past Greenwater is all usfs roads. I drove up a mile onto the first road before the snow and found 2 freshly fallen fir trees on the road.
     
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    I believe all the side roads are closed until the snow melts you can call the office and find out.
     
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    can you cut those? rules say

    Do not cut or remove:
    Lengths longer than six feet.
     
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    A downed tree is a downed tree. I think they are mainly looking for if your falling good trees and people not paying for the permit.
     
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    We have a crazy rule in BC that says even if the tree is laying on the ground with a big root ball exposed to the elements your not able to cut it until the needles are brown. IDK maybe they think it will stand up again? Were also able to cut further into the woods than 50 feet and standing dead is fair game as long as its not a habitat tree. Lots of my harvested wood is from lodgepole, fir and larch that are standing dead. Interesting read, thanks for posting. I just re read the post and it says federal forest, is that the same as federal land? The same here would be considered crown land which I consider to be the peoples forest.
     
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    Yes, it's suppose to be our land ran and maintained by the government.