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New RS30 PRO Bandsaw Blade Sharpener & Setter

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  1. Sawdust Man

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    That's above my pay rate for sure.
     
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    No grinding today, but I ran my first resharpened blade sawing oak, it's cut a bit over 400 bf and is still going nice and straight......must've done an okay job grinding it....
    At this point, it's preformed about as well as any new blade I've run.


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    I have a blade welder at my work but haven't tried welding up any blades but now you have me wondering if the one we have will handle the blades of that width. I might have to take an old blade and see what the end result is.
    Sometimes the reground blade actually cuts better than a factory ground one.
     
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    Truth about resharpened blades potentially cutting better than the mass produced new ones.

    I don't think welding blades back is worth while because of the metal fatigue throughout the entire blade is going to cause it to break again, likely very soon.
    Some blades will have many cracks in them when they break.....those obviously aren't worth welding.

    But I'm unedjumakated, so idk..... it's worth a try, just because.
     
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    We make all our own bandsaw blades from roll stock for many different saws of different lengths and widths. Not sure our welder would have enough to weld a blade that is as wide as the sawmill blades. I only have a smaller mill with 1 1/4 blade width , our welder might , just might ; be able to do that.
    That could cut my overhead. LOL

    I have some I sharpened that without a doubt cut better than a new one. Same goes for setting , they don't seem to have that " one tooth" that leaves a mark every time it cuts through.
    Double check the set on the couple teeth next to the weld, if there's one it seems to be in that area.
     
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    Did up a few blades the last couple days, kinda getting it figured out.

    The setter is definitely going to take some practice, but I've got it down to about 7 minutes per blade at this point without trying overly hard.
    It seems to be doing a pretty good job and is fairly consistent, I did over-bend a couple teeth out of a half dozen blades, but I just pushed em back with a rod and reset em.
    Right now I'm trying to get the stop adjusted so I can just squeeze it all the way and have it turn out right...... I have my doubts it can work that way, due to inconsistencies in the blade metal....but possibly it'll be good enough.
    So far, when I try it that way a few teeth per blade just won't bend far enough... probably not a big deal since a few under-set teeth won't screw with the finish of the cut like an over-set tooth can.... least wise that's my assumption.

    The grinder is very slow.....but that's okay, because once you get it setup right it does it's own thing, and a guy can go do something else for 10-15 minutes.

    The auto-kill thing you stick on the blade doesn't inspire much confidence, so I just work on something nearby so I can babysit it.

    Also, going to have to file the cam a bit more because I'm seeing micro inconsistencies in the gullet that I don't like.
    They say that can cause blades to crack due to it giving them a place to start cracking.....idk, but I figured it won't hurt to make it better.

    Haven't done any more sawing with the resharpened blades.....that's next.... maybe tomorrow.
     
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    Making progress. Thats good.

    I like the setter from Cooks , I also have the Woodland Mills setter but have yet to try it , I bought it before I found a package deal on the Cooks Grinder and Setter. At that time Woodland Mills and Woodmizer were so far behind I went with Cooks.
    The grinder is great and fast , I did add a switch and relay setup so that it stops itself when finished. It would be nice if they offered this feature themselves, especially for the price.

    Do you think that your CBN wheel might be somewhat of a disadvantage? Having a fixed profile like it does take away the option of contouring the wheel to help fit the blade profile. It took me a little tweaking to get the profile of the "Rock" as they call it correct for my blade profile.
    I try to grind as little in the gullet as I can , this just carries the dust and doesn't cut so it is less of a concern. I am mainly focusing on the tip and topside of the tooth , after a couple sharpening's then maybe a little more in the gullet.
    I have a bunch of blades to sharpen and just need a rainy day ( or snow day ? ) to spend in the shop. Right now too many irons in the fire so they have to wait.
     
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    Idk if the CBN is making things more difficult or not.... maybe...
    I sure do like not having to dress the wheel.

    From what I understand it's important to keep the gullet depth right for sawdust removal, especially in wider cuts.
     
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    I agree with you on the dressing part of it. I switched to CBN for my chain grinders and they are great , not only the dressing part but also no gritty mess from the rock wheel.

    The first sharpening for me is often very light so I am only taking a small amount off the tip of the tooth , not enough to really effect the depth of the gullet , as time goes on and they get sharpened a few times then I will start cutting down in the gullet more.

    My mill is small compared to what you are running so no extra wide boards from here , maybe when I upgrade it will be able for some wider stuff.
     
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    What mill do you have?
     
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    Woodland HM122 , this started as a hobby and is becoming an addiction.
    Looking to upgrade in the spring.
     
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    Whatcha thinking of getting?

    I'm beginning to see a few decent deals on used woodmizer mills again.
    My guess is we're going to see some great deals as time goes on, with all the panic mill buying the last few years lots of people are going to decide to bail out.
     
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    I ran a couple of my sharpened blades today....
    The first one was pretty unsatisfactory all around, I'm thinking I didn't take enough material off the points to get a good edge.... maybe...
    Number two preformed much better... about like a new blade, so that was encouraging.
    I'm getting some scratches... assuming I've got an over set tooth....not terrible, but not up to my standards of acceptability either.

    I've got some more logs needing cut tomorrow, so more testing & learning.
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    Not sure what route I am looking to go yet.
    I would love to find a Woodmizer. I know a couple years back that was just about imposable.

    There is one close to me that has been sitting in the yard and best I can tell has not been used for a while.
    Might be time for me to go knock on the door.