In loving memory of Kenis D. Keathley 6/4/81 - 3/27/22 Loving father, husband, brother, friend and firewood hoarder Rest in peace, Dexterday

Necessary to sweep chimney so soon?

Discussion in 'The Wood Pile' started by CogentAnon, Aug 28, 2023.

  1. MNWoodMan

    MNWoodMan

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2022
    Messages:
    17
    Likes Received:
    146
    Location:
    Mankato ,MN
    I would sweep it to be on the safe side. You don't know if something made it their home over the summer. I just use a kit I got from Amazon works good just take the black pipe off and send it up about 25 FT with my drill and its clean. last winter was my first year with a wood stove in the house and my wood was not well seasoned. it was a life saver last winter draft would get week and I would seep it and it would draft well again had to do that four times last winter.
    Her is the kit I got. Amazon.com : Bluesea 30 Feet Chimney Sweep Kit,
     
  2. The Wood Wolverine

    The Wood Wolverine

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2015
    Messages:
    17,345
    Likes Received:
    108,900
    Location:
    Gettysburg, PA
    Very good point! Couple years ago I lit up 1st time for the season and smoke rolled out of the stove. Good thing it's in my basement but... starlings had made a nest in my SS chimney, completely blocking it. What a mess that was. From that point on, my 1st light up is a small smokey couple sticks to make sure draft is working properly.
     
    Sirchopsalot, Ohio, wildwest and 3 others like this.
  3. moresnow

    moresnow

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    1,763
    Likes Received:
    9,878
    Location:
    Iowa
    If your unable to perform a cleaning yourself plan on paying for it. Soooo much easier to remove bird nest (or other) residue now than after a failed startup on a chilly day.
    2+ cord could leave a startling amount of buildup depending on venting setup, fuel quality and stove operation.
    Not to mention a close inspection of your rather new install may catch an unseen issue that has developed.
    My 2 cents, good luck.
     
  4. Locust Post

    Locust Post

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    8,659
    Likes Received:
    49,724
    Location:
    N. E. OH
    He put it in March of 22 so that is more than a full winter
     
  5. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,514
    Likes Received:
    143,144
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    I thought it was '23 also...so over a full season, yup, I'd clean it for sure.
     
    Ohio, wildwest, eatonpcat and 3 others like this.
  6. Backwoods Savage

    Backwoods Savage Moderator

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2013
    Messages:
    45,716
    Likes Received:
    286,493
    Location:
    Central MI
    Whoops! :emb:
     
    Ohio, Biddleman, wildwest and 3 others like this.
  7. iowahiker

    iowahiker

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2019
    Messages:
    244
    Likes Received:
    1,559
    Location:
    NE Iowa
    I cleaned my triple wall stainless chimney this week and got around a quart of soot and no glaze. I switched to August because the weather is better than November and I do not need to cool+relight the furnace. I use fiber glass rods and go all the way up and down twice. I have an outside clean out "T" and go up with rods and snake a rope down to pull a brush through the black pipe into the furnace. Glaze is easier to ignite so checking once a year is very worthwhile. I had a little glaze last year and drier wood and/or more draft cured the glaze. My old cement block chimney needed cleaning each winter month with lots of glaze. Note: my triple wall is "all fuel" not the mobile home triple wall which has an internal cooling draft design.
     
    eatonpcat, wildwest and brenndatomu like this.
  8. blacktail

    blacktail

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2015
    Messages:
    1,460
    Likes Received:
    10,086
    Location:
    PNW
    Clean it or have it cleaned. There's other factors besides moisture content that contribute to a dirty pipe. If it's an uninsulated liner in an exterior chimney, it'll get dirty faster. If you start a lot of fires from a cold stove, it'll get dirty faster. Both of those apply to my setup and I clean my flue twice a year, from the bottom with a sooteater. If you can get a sooteater in at the stove end, it's a very easy 15-minute job. For your flue length you would need an extra set of rods.
     
  9. yooperdave

    yooperdave

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2014
    Messages:
    33,557
    Likes Received:
    206,310
    Location:
    Michigan's U.P.
  10. RGrant

    RGrant

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2019
    Messages:
    773
    Likes Received:
    4,277
    Location:
    Connecticut
    Also not one for heights, so I feel for you on that end.
    Can you call around to a couple other people to get a couple other prices? If it were my house, I'd have it swept so it was done and taken care of.
     
  11. Eric VW

    Eric VW Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2015
    Messages:
    24,174
    Likes Received:
    138,611
    Location:
    US
    An extra section of pipe will not overcome wet wood.

    (sorry Screwloose)
    :eek:
    :emb:

    :whistle:
     
    yooperdave and eatonpcat like this.
  12. Meche_03

    Meche_03

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2019
    Messages:
    583
    Likes Received:
    3,413
    Location:
    Missouri
    Can you get a guy to just drop a light and camera to do a visual inspection?

    I sweep my chimney twice a year. I usually get less than 5 gallons of dry flaky soot and loose creosote. No glasses or oily residue . I have a block and red tile chimney right now. It takes a while to get it heated up, especially early and late in the burning season when I just need one fire to take the morning chill off. Cold chimneys will cause un-combusted gases to solidify and coat cold surfaces.

    I'm looking at relining the chimney with a single wall stainless system. I don't have room to go double or triple wall without breaking the red tile out. The tiles in pretty good shape but I worry about what I can't see from both end during the sweeping.

    Now, when I was growing up I don't recall anyone sweeping there chimneys. I remember several chimney fires too. I know I saw a few looking out the windows of the farm truck and getting dad's attention. Then he would stop and run to the door to help get the fire out. A lot of old houses probably burned down because of a chimney fire but without seeing it you wouldn't know if the stove cracked open or if the wood pile caught fire.
     
    brenndatomu and MikeInMa like this.
  13. MikeInMa

    MikeInMa

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2016
    Messages:
    13,734
    Likes Received:
    97,477
    Location:
    Southern Worcester county
    5gal of sweeping sounds like alot to me. But, I'm no expert in such matters.
     
    Ohio, brenndatomu, yooperdave and 2 others like this.
  14. Canadian border VT

    Canadian border VT

    Joined:
    Feb 18, 2015
    Messages:
    17,697
    Likes Received:
    115,236
    Location:
    Vermont
    I agree, once a year, cups not gallons
     
    RGrant, MikeInMa, Ohio and 6 others like this.
  15. brenndatomu

    brenndatomu

    Joined:
    May 29, 2015
    Messages:
    22,514
    Likes Received:
    143,144
    Location:
    NE Ohio
    No need for double or triple wall, single with insulation wrap works great. I did mine years ago, no regrets!
    Agree, that's a lot
     
  16. Allman27

    Allman27

    Joined:
    Aug 28, 2023
    Messages:
    43
    Likes Received:
    355
    Location:
    East Central Wisconsin
    I can tell you the house I am finishing fixing up was built in 1880's-ish and they had two chimneys in the house that was just a standard brick and mortar. However, surrounding the chimney on the inside of the house they used wood shavings for insulation. When I ripped apart the chimneys and walls everything was black surrounding it. The wood shavings smelled burnt and was black. I have no idea how the house didn't burn to the ground years ago. Just crazy.
     
  17. MikeInMa

    MikeInMa

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2016
    Messages:
    13,734
    Likes Received:
    97,477
    Location:
    Southern Worcester county
    They made charcoal!
     
    brenndatomu likes this.
  18. Sirchopsalot

    Sirchopsalot

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2020
    Messages:
    3,145
    Likes Received:
    19,116
    Location:
    medium city in CT
    I agree with the idea of cleaning every year till you are comfortable with your burning style, wood quality, etc. Way less expensive to have it looked at than oopsies.
    I'm not fond of heights either, but i'm absolutely not paying someone to go up there till I'm unable to myself.
    Last season was our third season burning..our first season included some less-than-perfectly-dry wood. I may well graduate to cleaning every other or every 3rd year, but for now, every year...looking to establish a baseline normal.
    Maybe you could install some permanent fall protection?
    I looped a rope around my chimney, with a length of hose where it chafes on concrete.....(pic). It helps with ascent and decent. And I can nip up there to clean, seal cracks, whatever.

    Shop around for sweeps. Or find a friend who knows a little bit about chimney conditions.
    Did mine today. If I'd had any repairs to make, I'd be really short on time to fix. We'll be burning on a couple weeks.

    20230901_082956.jpg
     
    Ronaldo and theburtman like this.
  19. LCBug

    LCBug

    Joined:
    May 1, 2022
    Messages:
    170
    Likes Received:
    978
    Location:
    WI
    Holy crud! Good thing you got that straightened out.
     
    theburtman likes this.
  20. Meche_03

    Meche_03

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2019
    Messages:
    583
    Likes Received:
    3,413
    Location:
    Missouri
    Yes, it's a lot. I talked to my boy, he stands down below and vacuums it up while I'm on the roof sweeping. He said it's less than an ice cream box, so less than half gallon. I must have been remembering the first year I got the house from the previous owner. He burned green wood with no chimney cap. The single wall pipe from wood stove to chimney had a half inch of built up crap. I just threw that pipe out and installed a new one.
     
    MikeInMa, theburtman and brenndatomu like this.