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NC30 split length

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Red Elm, Feb 16, 2020.

  1. Red Elm

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    Can someone please tell me the maximum length of split that will fit in an NC30 front to back and get the door closed. Im not interested in what the manual says, I'd like someone to actually measure one. I hope to replace our 35 yo smoke dragon with a NC30 and want to start cutting proper length wood now.
    Thank you.

    PS, I'm assuming the fresh air comes in near the front, by the glass?
     
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    20", but you don't want to use that # for your firewood. It's actually about 23" to the glass. Home Depot and other places usually have 'em on the sales floor. Grab a tape and have a look next time you're there.
    16-17" is about right to allow airflow through and around the splits. I've gone larger, and they'll fit, but it makes things tough when trying to fully load the stove.
    3 air intakes. Primary, secondary, and the "doghouse". You have direct control over the primary only.
    That's the simple answer.
     
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    Thank you, our HD doesn't stock them. We're so far out from civilization we just got filtered cigarettes last week.
    I'm cutting 15" now, so I'll just keep rocking and rolling.

    I really appreciate your help Papa Dave!!
     
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    If you cut to 16", you'll have fewer cuts in the long run. :dex:
     
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    I cut 18-20.
     
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    Which means even fewer cuts. :yes:
    And....they'll fit in the stove to boot.
     
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    I actually don't measure when I cut, so I just now measured some of the splits in my wood crib. I think 17 is about the best, but I have some 20, and some a little less.
     
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    Don’t wait too long. The 2020 regs are kicking in and I haven’t seen the nc30 on the list as approved. It’s an older model but I wouldn’t trade it for any other Englander product.
     
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    I have never measured. I have three indoor stoves and one OWB. If its cut too long, (rare occurrence), it goes to the outdoor stove pile.

    But, the advantage of cutting everything to 16(ish) is the weight and handling is more manageable.
     
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    Yeah, I wonder about that. The numbers vs regs look ok as far as I can tell, but maybe there is a hitch in testing/proving? Or paperwork?

    Whatever it is, they'd better get on it!
     
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    The old numbers are meaningless. The new test is different and all stoves must be tested and certified again. I bet it’s expensive.
     
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    I think there's a hole under the stove feeding the air to the doghouse. Correct me if I am wrong. Just going from memory of seeing posts here and don't have the stove. Where is the primary air coming from? Where is air wash for glass getting its air supply?
     
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    Two holes feed the "doghouse". One on each underside of the stove body behind front legs.....just about the size of a dime.
    Primary and secondary air have separate inlets on the underside of the stove in the back. Primary is 3" and secondary is a small-ish rectangle. Don't remember the size.
     
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    That secondary inlet is about 1”x2”. Not intended to be hooked to an outside air supply but easily accessed for observation.
     
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    Sounds like the air from the dog house is moving at a house speed causing quite the turbulence in the stove, if it can cause wood to be burned through the middle of a piece.

    If I recall correctly the Drolet Myriad II has a similar dog house located in the same spot. It doesn’t boast as good of emissions numbers though and is discontinued. I came a hair from buying one. Couldn’t find an NC30 locally. Still can’t.
     
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    So, if the NC30 is gone due to govt regs, what stove does everyone recommend in the under $1500 range?
     
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    Check out the Drolet line.
     
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    The air wash and primary are the same, entering the stove through the 3" hole in the back, controlled by the air control, and entering the box above the glass in the front.
     
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