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Moving heavy things

Discussion in 'Chainsaws and Power Equipment' started by Jon1270, Nov 21, 2014.

  1. DexterDay

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    Lots of help on the hill, box, pulley, etc...

    I wanna see those wood racks under that porch!! Nice use of space! :)
     
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    I used them in a warehouse with a cement floor, they were great! I also tried to use one in my yard, the lumps and bumps in the lawn and driveway kept tipping my cargo over (along w me!). I may be too scrawny for heavy loads though.
     
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  3. MasterMech

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    I picked up my big box used. It's a Snap-On KRL series which is the same build quality as their KRA boxes, just 24" deep instead of 30". I have a 54" Roll-Cab, Top Chest and side locker. The whole rig is over 1000lbs EMPTY. A 41" single bank setup or even a 26" (typical every-man sized toolbox) is quite a bit heavier than a similar sized Crapsman, Home Cheapo, Blowes, or Hazard Fraught rig.

    Now I realize that most of us will never wear out a tool box in our lifetimes but for those of us that do move our boxes on a regular basis, having a lifetime guarantee on things like casters, slides, latches, key locks, lock bars and gas struts (in the lid) is a valuable asset. To the rest of us, it's awesome peace of mind.

    Sounds like you know what you want Jon and how to get it home. Pics are a must!
     
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    forks are great....

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    I wore out a husky 41" tool box from lowes. good tool box for a homeowner or someone with a small shop, but for heavy duty everyday use, you'll wear one out in no time. they cost a lot of money, but are also an investment that will truly last a lifetime.


    I'm sorry, but KRL boxes are not the same quality as KRA boxes. they make KRL's in both 24 and 30 (actually 29"deep). KRA's are still built stouter that lowes or Homedepot/harbor freight models, but not as well built as the KRL's. The steel is thicker, drawers have more supports, slides are 3x better quality. I've owned 4 over the years and KRL boxes are much stouter built than the cheaper and thinner KRA boxes. my KRA classic 96 (72"Long x 24" deep weighed 650lbs with a top hutch on it. My KRA 1022 which is shorter by 12" and 30" deep weighs 950 with a stainless top. that was just the bottom box.
     
  6. Jon1270

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    Did you see the pics of my back yard, with the single car garage? That's all there is. If I had to park a machine like that, I'd have to get rid of my car.

    Which is not to say that I don't see the utility.
     
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    I think it's good to have a few ideas of how to do it in case the thing is heavy.
    Once the drawers are all out it probably won't weigh that much.
    I have a five foot long craftsman bench type tool box full of drawers and if I take all the drawers out I could probably put it on my back and carry it.
    I also have a couple of other cheapo roll around cabinets with tool chests on top they are about 30 years old and do the job of holding the tools and functioning just fine.
    The point Here is the brand names like snap on and Mac are overpriced and unless you are professional and use it every day and beat the chit out of it, you don't need something that heavy duty.
    I was wondering how do you get all your wood up in there?
     
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  8. Freakingstang

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    its the size of a lawn mower... lol. what I was trying to say is don't you know anyone with a tractor? Heck i'm not that far from pittsburgh....
     
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  9. Jon1270

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    I unload at the front yard and bring it down alongside the house in a plastic utility sled.

    Well, the borough has one but I don't think they loan it out. I'm too close to the city for there to be many privately owned tractors around. Heck, riding mowers would be out of place in my neighborhood.
     
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    Wow, that small? I have a new item on wishlist. Bet you could put a bucket on it too? NICE
     
  11. Freakingstang

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    ok, first off, brand new snap on is not overpriced... The dealer markup is...I'll agree to that. the new mac stuff is made in china junk, they are owned my stanley which is all foreign junk now too. Proto is owned by Stanley now too, but so far their stuff seems to be the old school good stuff. Not sure if matco has sold out to china or not, but they are owned by Danaher corporation that owns the napa line of junk now and as well the craftsman junk. This isn't 1972 and everything made is quality.

    2nd, craftsman made a good box 30 years ago. The stuff they have now, doesn't last if you have any kind of weight in them. I buy a craftsman 100 dollar 4 drawer intermediate chest for my service truck every year. the bottom drawer breaks within 6 months. thats from normal weight of sockets in 3/8 and 1/2". not overloading, not beating the chit out of anything. stuff built today is junk compared to older american made stuff. Snap on is the only one that still makes 100% of there boxes in the US, so that's why they cost 2 times as much as anything comparable thats made in china or tycoko or ukraine.

    So, buy 4 or 5 500 dollar tool boxes so you dont overload it and it will still fail in time if you actually use it, or buy one 2-4K dollar box and be done with it.
     
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    thats a bummer... riding mowers out of place.... ouch!
     
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  14. Jon1270

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    Less than 1/6 of an acre right there. Another mile closer to downtown and my yard starts to seem spacious.
     
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    That's true
     
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    See several on CL your area.
    Snap on seems expensive
    one for $2500

    this one says can have with tools, for $$
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    that box is 9500 new today
     
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    really surprised they let ya burn wood in that close quarters...
     
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    I stand corrected as you are right (KRAs are their less expensive line), it's been about 7 years since I bought my box but I knew it was just a slightly smaller model in the "Masters" series boxes.

    My Roll Cab - https://store.snapon.com/KRL722-Ser...ouble-Bank-11-Drawers-Royal-Blue-P649532.aspx
    My Top Chest - https://store.snapon.com/KRL791-Ser...Double-Bank-8-Drawers-Royal-Blue-P637480.aspx
    My Side Locker - https://store.snapon.com/KRL712-Series-Lockers-Locker-4-drawers-3-shelves-Royal-Blue-P644172.aspx
     
  20. Jon1270

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    There are a surprising number of burners in the area. It's not every other house, but there are a few others within a quarter mile, I'd say.

    I just want a single or tw0-bay roll cab, big enough to use the top as a small workbench. My current bench is a mat on top of the washing machine, and my tools are all either in small portable boxes or Rubbermaid storage totes. I know where things are, but it's always a messy ordeal to get to anything, boxes inevitably half-emptied onto the floor as I dig for what I need. When Mike posted pics of all his HF boxes in the toolbox thread, I realized what I needed -- DRAWERS!

    The forums at garagejournal.com are very helpful for learning about the differences between various boxes. KRA, KRL, Epiq, Heritage, Master, Classic, Blue Point, etc. etc. In brands other than Snap On you get into Performance Series, Tech Series, Series 4, Series 5, Series 6. Going into the search I mostly knew I wanted a really nicely made box big enough to hold my most frequently-used tools. I still have a cheap Craftsman benchtop box that I used as a patternmaker, which inspires frustration and disappointment every time I open a drawer. Your roll cab is the very largest sort of think I'd consider, and would require some extra work to make a place for it. It would be easier to fit a 40" single-bay like the KRA4107, which seems to be widely available on CL. I think trade school students get them at a discount, then realize they need something bigger and sell them off when practically new. I'd just pick up one of those, except that I'm doubtful it would hold enough.