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Love living in an Aframe!!

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by Aframe, Dec 9, 2015.

  1. Aframe

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    [​IMG]Here is a picture of my Aframe
     
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    Forgot to respond to a couple of questions in the thread. I am burning 2 yrs seasoned wood cut off my property. Mostly hackberry and locust walnut and elm. My chimney from the top to the floor is 16.5 ft.
    By the way so glade to have joined FWH
     
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    A frame is kind of like a wooden teepee:D
     
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    Welcome aboard Aframe! You hit the nail on the head with posting great pics, also!
    Wait until your wood is dried for one more year and I think your door glass problem will disappear. It has all the markings of wood that is too wet. I hope the wood was stacked in an area where there was ample air flow for the last two years??
     
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    I have a blaze king and I know what dirty glass is. The NC30 is either burning hot and clean or being snuffed. So long as it is not snuffed, I have never had anything but white dust on the glass.
     
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    The wood was stacked on pallets outside in the sun. Not sure about air flow.
     
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    Looks like it's burning pretty good to me!
     
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    Aframe, the chimney should be measured from where it exits from the stove, not the floor. If there are any elbows, then subtract 2-3' from the height to get a more exact reading. Aim for 15' minimum usually but depends upon stove manufacturer's recommendation too.
     
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    For some reason, the 30NC is measured from the floor/hearth surface.
    15' is the suggested minimum from the floor.
    See page 13.
     

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    Looks like it's burning pretty good, but with the Primary air being shut down that far, the end of the burn cycle will suffer and that's where the black may come from. As it burns down, open the primary more (if you're home and awake), or run with a tad more air for the whole burn. I used to run my stove with mainly secondary burn like your video. It works well, but the end of the cycle suffers from lack of air.
     
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    X2 Same for my stove .
    When it's running like that and you go outside and look you will probably see smoke and when it gets to end of the burn cycle smoke will be worse ,wood in the back of the stove will just smolder instead of burn, I always open the primary more after an hour or so
     
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    My manual also shows 15' is the minimum, measured from the floor
     
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    Welcome to FHC! Kinda of certa neighbor... NC30 :dex:...Beautiful House...
     
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    Okay, manufacturer's recommendations are good.
     
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    Thanks guys I'll try running the burn cycle with more air. It's been in the 60s in Kc this week! Been putting a damper on my wood burning.
     
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    DexterDay and HDRock, what did you guys see to indicate that the air was too low? I'm new to burning and am not exactly sure what to look for, etc.
     
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    Almost exactly what HD described below

     
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    So was it raging secondaries with a small fire on the actual wood that indicated the primary air was cut way low? I guess I'm not exactly sure how to diagnose issues simply by looking at the flame.

    I've had three fires. I didn't notice any smoke from the chimney but they were all after dark. I only had secondaries like that once but they didn't last long, and I had the primary air open. What should I be looking for to indicate a good, clean burn (aside from smoke coming from the chimney)?
     
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    All stoves and setups are different but, most of the time if I don't have flames at the top and the bottom it will be smoking, not burning clean.
    But then again if my stove is running good and hot 675 - 700 it will burn good and clean with just secondaries in the top.
    Run your stove at all kind of different settings and keep checking for smoke, once you figure out how you're stove runs without any smoke you won't have to go out and check anymore.

    If you're trying to figure things out at night running the stove just get a good flashlight and go look