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Looking for opinions on indoor boiler

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  1. cornykid75

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    So my aging mother has an econoheat indoor boiler that is tied to a rapid recovery propane boiler. System was a good idea in the 80's, or at least I thought it was. I had to tend the fire for her this winter, she is cheap and burns wood as much as she can. So anyway, the boiler needs a new door gasket at the very least. It has a damper on the door to regulate the fire and if the house dosen't call for heat it will pop off the pressure relief valve. So she just nurses the fire along with a few pieces here and there to keep some heat in the system when one of the zones calls for it. I'm guessing most of the heat goes up and out the chimney. So to make this easier for her I am considering three options:
    1: do the maintenance that had been neglected over the years. New door gasket, damper sealed up (?), install a dump valve on a zone to capture the heated water instead of dumping in on the basement floor. (I'm not sold that this system is the most efficient)
    2: Do the above and add some hot water storage to the existing system, so she will only have to "fire" the stove a couple of times a day. (This concept seems to have some merit, not sure on cost of storage units)
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    3: Untie the systems. Run some ductwork in the basement and run a wood furnace to distribute hot air. The house has radiant baseboards that the propane can and has handled for the three zones. I'm guessing she would roast herself out of the house with the amount of wood she burns with the indoor boiler this way.
    I would estimate that she burns about 4 loggers cord a winter with the current system, and 1000 gallon of propane. The house is about 1600sf its insulated to 80's standards with new windows. Not drafty at all.
    Any advise is appreciated, thanks in advance.

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    Do the maintenance and install storage...or go wood furnace. That's my vote...
     
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    Thanks. Anyone else have an indoor boiler?

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    4 cords and 1000 gallons of propane for 1600 sqft o_O.
    In what state?
     
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    Northern Wisconsin. Exactly what I was thinking. And she's not terribly comfortable. New windows. Last year.

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    I don't have any experience with boilers or furnaces. One big cat stove should cut her fuel usage by 2/3 and keep the house toasty and stable.
     
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    Thanks, I'm leaning towards the wood stove in the basement with ductwork idea. I love chainsaws and cutting up her wood. I just never realized that she wasn't very warm and cozy when she was burning. So anyone have any recommendations for a wood "furnace"? I think it's a 6" flue, maybe 8. I'll measure top be sure.

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    Englander 28-4000 if you want a manual controlled furnace.
    Drolet Tundra II for something a bit fancier.
    Kuuma Vaporfire if you want the best.
    And if you lean toward either of the first two, buy them now, they will not be available anymore after the EPA 2020 rules kick in on May 15th. (Unless Drolet comes out with a Tundra III, and I hear they are, but it will be more $ no doubt)
    And you need to have a 6" flue for almost anything these days...
     
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    That's good information to know, thank you, thank you.

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    Anyone have any advise on a woodchuck? I've seen a few used ones for sale. Made by the guys that make some great tough farm equipment. Anyone have one?
    Thanks

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