Its's getting old!

just a thought , has anyone reported a higher draft requirement for the PE? i just wonder thinking about the "everburn" VC units which didnt perform well unless they were connected to a really powerful flue, where other units didnt have the need for as powerful a flue system.

im still "fishing" on this one.

 

Actually they are reported to not need a lot of draft.
If you think about (and I have a lot), high flue temps with low stove top temps has to be an issue with the stove.
Too much draft would cause high flue and stove top temps.
Too little draft would cause low flue and stove top temps.

 

yeah, true dat, im just stabbing in the dark, this one is perplexing

 

I like to go by how dry the wood is not its age, cut a lot of dead wood and no reason to let it set for 2 years if not needed.
Green wood I cut is usually 2 years but Silver Maple and Green Ash do not need 2 years either, one long summer for certain types of wood will get them below 20 %.

 

The sad thing is that is exactly what the EPA sees is numbers and if you look it up (don't take my word for it) wood burners burn dirty old and new compared to gas.
Not having smoke is a good thing but under the most ideal conditions gas is cleaner.
Just so you don't misunderstand what I am saying I don't agree with what the EPA does but they are just reacting off of the results.

 

well, the act of combustion may be cleaner but when yo9u factor in the procurement of it the numbers get a lot closer IMHO

 

Well we all can not burn wood so not sure tweaking the numbers makes much sense.

 

so by that thought everyone should have to use electric heat as it does not produce any pollution at all

 

That's not what I said at all, I said we cant all burn wood for a couple of reasons or I don't think we want to.
You want to live in a city where wood is burnt for all the heat sources?
Not sure why so many people will not accept the fact wood is not as clean as gas, I don't like the fact either but I am willing to accept the fact.

 

From now on I will just leave the "how clean is a wood burner to you folks".

 

I use both NG & dry wood.

How clean ? My guess is NG is much cleaner,
never had to brush the chimney on the NG furnace or Hot water tank in the past 25 years.

$$ is part of it.
Fun cutting wood is another.

But Hawaii sounds better & better all the time,

LOL

PS
Cabin fever time, relax. eh?

 

Well I posted the charts once but that did not do any good either, it seems like people take offense to the fact wood stoves are on the dirty side.
Just like the coal issue you know we have dirty coal and clean coal, well there is no clean coal.
They are comparing these fuels to gas remember.
Never having to brush your chimney on your NG furnace or hot water tank is a very good point.

 

not taking offense, just pointing out that oil and gas when the production refinement and transportation are factored in then the "cleanness" of the fuel source itself when compared to wood isnt as big a varience. while its still probably cleaner overall its not as overwhelming a difference.

 

I don't agree with that at all but show me numbers and maybe you can convince me.
Can you imagine a city full people using wood stoves for heat.
It has already been an issue in some areas and that was on a much smaller scale.
I can post the charts again but nobody seems to care about that, even cars are cleaner then wood stoves by far.
Is it over stated, I don't know but you don't have to clean the exhaust on your car either.

 

Seattle shuts down wood burning when a weather inversion sets in & the air quality sucks.
Plus they have strict EPS stove type standards in place for wood burning.

Their air quality sucks due to millions of vehicles, but they can't shut them down.
Add a million house burning wood, the city would look like Peking

 

Pretty sure wood burning, in any form, isn't going to ever be THE choice of the masses to heat their homes. Too much sweat involved… too dirty going in and coming out… too much time involved (wasted, in the eyes of the masses)… too much risk of injury… and on it goes.

I am thankful there is good wood here we can heat our home with. I am also thankful most don't want to do the same… and, that it's still legal to do either.

 

Been heating with wood for 35 years so you guys know where I am coming from but I will not ignore the facts.
I live in the middle of no where with the closest neighbor 1/2 a mile a way so I don't bother any one.
They wanted to control the dust in Iowa a few years ago, not sure where they find these idiots.

 

I know this an old thread, but I am going to say that I have a Vermont Castings Resolute and this is my 33rd year heating with it. I too use a thermometer on the pipe and could'nt imagine running it without it. It tells you everything you need to know just walking by hours or minutes later, I know my stove and it's habits and I would never give it up. I also only get about a coffee can of dust from the chimney each year. Another reason I like it, it cost $650 bucks brand new, can't see spending big money on a new one when old school works fine.