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Installation of Summers Heat 2000 Sq.Ft. Pellet Stove - 55-SHPAH.

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  1. Gasifier

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    The blower speed stays the same even in low mode?:confused:

    That could explain it. I may not have noticed the dropping of pellets to be lower. So the blower will stay on 4 setting even when in idle mode. Strange. Seems like a waste of electricity.
     
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    So possible it went into low setting and blower stayed on 4 and pellet feed was less. Why the hell don't they tell that in manual? I don't remember reading that. Is that my C.R.S. again?
     
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    Gas,

    The manuals rarely go into detail. Most are written for someone who does this as a routine thing, you might have more information on the DVD but I don't know, I don't have the DVD either. I've read a lot of threads between Mike Holton and other England stove owners.

    If you couple this with the fact that the controllers are always changing and the t-stat makers are always changing and that no one ever actually states what a such and such actually means you end up with confusion and p*ssed off folks all over the place.
     
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    LOFL! That is the truth. Oh well. I'll figure it out sooner or later. New stat going in today sometime. (Moving more wood under cover right now for house) although I doubt there is anything wrong with it, not much to them. But in going to put a new one in anyway because that one is about thirty years old. I can pick a decent one up with the money I will get back for two things I have to return to Lowe's I never needed. Thanks man!
     
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    It may have been working fine and I didn't know it because blower never kicked down. We will see with the amount of pellets used over next few days.
     
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    Gas...unfortunately I can't be of any help with this as I've never had a thermostat hooked up to any of my stoves......but.......you could contact Mike @ Englander (Sr. Tech) [email protected] and he will tell you everything you need to know about that. You maybe can also mention this "new" site too. ;)
     
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    Firing rate is the only change. The panel will still read 4-4 and the convection blower will still stay at 4 also.

    I would call or email Mike Holton. Good guy :)
     
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    I installed the new thermostat. It will be tough to tell over the next few days if it is actually reducing pellet feed or not. It is going to be pretty mild. I may turn it right off during the day on a few days. Save the pellets.

    I need to pick up an ash vacuum sometime soon! Like today.
     
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    Most of us use the stove in On-Off mode (or manual, in your case) until it gets pretty cold out, then we switch to Hi-Lo.
     
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    Ya. Some say hook up to thermostat and set it and leave it. Some say ....... I will turn it down to 1 - 1 and see what happens. I just need to keep seeing how things go and trying different pellets and different settings. Not much need right now to go above 2 - 2. On 2-2 the camp was staying in high 50s low 60s when down to 28 degrees. I know my electric baseboard is not turning on. That makes me :D
     
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    What is the date of manufacture on your stove, the PAHs with the correct control board can be operated under a t-stat in on/off mode as well as hi/low.
     
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    Don't have number with me now but I know that is true for my stove. I read the manual. I did not want to go into on /off mode with stat. Would rather have it just go down to low when heat is not needed.
     
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    Just be aware that the lowest settings, like 1-1 on an Englander or any stove, are the toughest for these stoves to run well at. Depending on the exhaust set-up, brand of pellet, etc, there may be times that there won't be enough heat generated to trip the "POF" setting, and the convection blower could shut off. Then, you're burning pellets for nothing.

    IMO, run it at 2-2, on the stat, and On-OFF, or shut it off completely. The amount of "wear & tear" on the ignitor is going to be insignificant, and the ignitor will be under warranty for a year anyway. After that, they are available at places like Graingers fairly cheaply.
     
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    The PAH has a pot with a much smaller area compared to the CPM and prob the EP. That said, the PAH may be nothing to look at (Black Box), but its burn and amount of heat exchanged make up for it.

    Member Jrsdws had a CPM and his neighbor had the PAH, and he was amazed at how much better the burn was and also, how much better the flame burned (smaller surface area on the bottom of pot, means more air per hole, because there is less holes overall than the CPM pot).

    He said his neighbors stove burned night and day different over his stove. Pot stays clean due to amount of air and burned well, even on low settings.

    The CPM burns well, but with such a large pot, the flame seems insignificant, even though the flame is larger than what it appears.

    I would try and run it on 1. Leave it on 1-1 overnight. Just to make sure that when you get the stat hooked up correctly, that you know it will burn well in High/Low. For those times when it stays in Low, for extended periods.
     
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    Gas, can you post up a pic of the pot to show the size. Its prob half (or smaller) than the CPM. Slvrblkk, can you post a pic of the EP?

    How does the EP run on low?? (1-1).

    My father has my CPM and it spends a fair amount of time on 1-1 during the daylight hrs (when its on High/Low).
     
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    True dat. That PAH is a good burning little black box.
     
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    My EP runs good on low but you really need to sort of dial it in depending on the pellet, especially trying to run it on that 1 setting.
     

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    I'll have to post a pic tomorrow night. I shut the stove down. It is really mild here. Must be 55 degrees. It is 65 in camp. No need go run it. I am also leaving it unplugged to protect from surge if power goes out with all this wind coming. I don't have a good surge protector yet.
     
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    Most ash vacs are junk. You'll be better off with a shop vac with drywall bags. My wife gave me one for Christmas last year. Made a big production out of using it and then discreetly tucked it away in a corner of the basement where she never goes.