I'm 'Bout Ready to Toss My 661 in the Trash!!!

Awesome, good luck!

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Ralphie Boy you got a lot of patience. I'd have started it in parking lot! warmed it up and seen if it was fixed!

 

Too much fun making chips fly!

 

So, How'd it run ??

 

Didn't it already get a mixing solonoid

These problems seem all too common. I don't see how anyone has any confidence in these saws?And I'm not trying to be Mike from Main here just pushing a $50 044 from a guy that is the only thing you should run cause that saw was made back where men were men...and is a "Rod of Hot"??

 

I don't know if the saws are problematic. I think the dealers don't know how to repair them. Keep in mind they are small engine mechanics, and have never dealt with anything like this before so it is all new to them. I just went to an a auto repair class last night. I've been to classes this guy has taught before. He is always talking about "parts changers." They think some random part is the problem so they get one. That does not fix it so they think there is something wrong with the one they got and they get another one. Then that does not fix it so they get another one. I have noticed that going on with these saws. It seems like the fuel solenoid gets replaced over and over with not results. Another thing I have noticed every time one of these saws is not running right, it is an MTRONIC problem. I find that funny because there is are other parts that could be causing the problem, not just the MTRONIC components.

 

Seems like they put the saws on the market to soon before they had the bugs worked out .
You shouldn't have to take a brand new saw in to get it fixed

 

I agree, the "technitions" are being exposed for their incompetency.
I don't think Stihl is turning a blind eye, but don't have dealer training up to par.
Some manufactures (not just chainsaws) need to have say at least one cross trained tech per shop, but it doesn't always mean they are working on it.
I wonder what it would cost to have techs trained properly?

 

Or maybe the saws need to have a data port on them like we have on cars.

 

There is.

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You'd think they would be smart enough to take the saw out and test it a little before letting the customer have it.

I know a guy that is a Stihl tech. He said you could walk in not knowing anything about a saw and punch your problem in the computer and it would tell you how to fix it. He said they have great training and they are a great company. I'm pretty sure when something new comes out they have training.

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Reality is that there are very few really good diagnosticians out there anymore...less and less all the time...in any shop. As the new young techs come in, more and more they are almost useless if they can't just "plug it in" to get a code, and then swap out a part.

 

A lot of people have paid for new O2 sensors on cars because of an O2 code. The code does not always mean the part is bad, it means the gas exhaust mixture is out of whack.

 

Stihl has a history of doing this. When the 064 first came out , the crank bearings were too small for west coast timber falling with the long bars we run. It was nice and light, had enough power . And would run for up to 50 minutes on a tank of fuel. Falling , limbing and bucking. But the bearings couldn't take the stress of having a 36" bar or even a 32" sometimes . Especially running Oregon 52 AK chisel ground and hungry . 40 thousandth joint.
Eventually they got the issue fixed.
Then when the 066 first arrived in Alaska, they had a red light on them that was supposed to indicate something or other. Those saws had lots of problems .
I was running 394 Husky's at the time so I didn't have to deal with that.
Stihl will probably get this newest 660 straightened out. It really is STUPID this environmentally friendly tech.
These saw are used to turn Ancient boreal forests into logs and clearcuts. ;-)

 

Here I am again with my 661 not starting. Had it to the dealer because it wouldn't start. They had to put another fuel mixing solenoid (2nd one in 8 months) on it as I mentioned earlier in this thread. Just the other night me and Scotty Overkill went to drop the trunk on a big old oak and my saw wouldn't start at all! Sometimes it does this and the next day it with start. Not sure if it's because it was sitting in a hot truck all week? But went to try to start it today and it didn't even sputter! I am wondering if it's the fuel mixing solenoid again. Even though it's still covered under warranty the price on the sheet is the same price as a WJ-69 carb, I wonder if they can finagle some paperwork to give me a carb so I can end this nightmare! Anyways here are some pictures of the tree that we dropped we use Scotty Overkill's 1959 Stihl Contra with a 42" bar.

 

This may be a dumb ? But , did you dump some saw gas on the air filter ? Did you fully open and close the gas cap ?

 

Yeah, the emissions and onboard computers on them older (58 years) saw's were the best

 

I had a Stihl Lightening in 1983. It was the fore runner of the 090. It had a weird vibration that kept breaking the aluminum handle bar.
But , it would pull 48" of wood without much trouble. As a general rule tho . The 075s I had were much better saws.
But, the Lightening started and ran just fine.

 

Husky and other manufactures have problems too. I know of several people not getting the auto tune updates because they don't know about them. Who's fault is that?
I saw a thread in another site how one (husky croaked brand new) was replaced in a direct comparison to a 261...

It's just like the 70s with cars when all the emissions crap was added. Poor performance low fuel milage reliability problems etc.

I want to see a cheap Chinese fuel noid for 3 dollars that's reliable hit the market.

 

Oh Ya . Husky has its major problems also. Not saying they don't. From what I've seen they equally produce some real duds.
I've always been one to wait a while before spending money on New tech. I was running 2100 Husky's and 056 Stihls when the 064 first came out on the west coast. I got to avoid those problems. By the time I started cuttin timber with 064s they had the bugs worked out of them. Same with the 046. Time I started running them they were 100% .