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Ideal Steel solo install

Discussion in 'Modern EPA Stoves and Fireplaces' started by T-Stew, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. HDRock

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    Great thread stew, I hope that Stove does what you wanted to do, probably will.
    I moved my Lopi in by myself, 530 pounds with everything in it, I took out the tubes and Supports and all the bricks and took the door off.
    I used different techniques because I have a trailer and a different house layout and the hearth is 12 inches high,, slid it into the house with furniture sliders then jacked it up on to the hearth what blocks and a farm Jack , not easy but got er done.
     
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    Congratulations on doing this yourself!

    I'm waiting for my buddy to help me install my quadrafire 4100i insert in my fireplace this Saturday.

    I've got to put in the liner in the chimney though too, so my timing appears to be perfect at 50° and partly sunny.

    So, an 8' aquarium? How many gallons is it, and what do you have in it, or what's going in it?
     
  3. Doug

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    Love the new stove and love the brick hearth and chimney!
     
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  4. T-Stew

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    I hope so! I know my house is tough to heat and my days are long, but I'd be happy and would be a huge improvement if it stayed over 60 and at least had enough coals for relight when I get home.

    Having to go up is probably the hardest part of moving a stove! That all depends on the house of course. But I just measured and fwiw the deck on the TSC cart is about 17" tall with the 2x4s. It might take a bit more effort to tip upright but this method with the cart would probably work on a raised hearth too. I did just this morning use a farm jack to lift up the ends of my aquarium to put furniture sliders under em, that worked pretty slick (put some scrap 2" foam board over the glass just in case.

    Thanks, and good luck with the Quad! The aquarium is an 2'x2'x8' 240 gallon with two homemade sump tanks underneath (another 50-75 gallons). It has not been setup in years unfortunately. I was big into aquariums before we moved into this house, probably my only big hobby at the time. I had several tanks, this one was going to be a heavily planted tank (my favorite) with lots of schooling fish and loaches. I just about had it all setup when we moved. Since moving here my responsibilities changed greatly, house needed lots of work and maintenance, started heating with wood, gardening, hunting, wrenching on tractors, etc. Also got into running a lot more seriously and shoot for 30+ miles per week. And now my drive to work was much longer, from 10-15 minutes now to 45-1hr each way. And starting about a year ago I'm living here solo and have my son 1/2 of the time (all my days off) so that was a huge change too. So the aquarium hobby has not taken off again. I thought about getting rid of the tank but I really hope someday to set it back up and I had so much invested in it. I am half tempted just to do something easy like some fancy goldfish and rocks and driftwood, just got to get caught up on things before I even think about it.
     
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    T-Stew , my IS, first several months using it ... but last night got to 20.. i had been warming house since 5... loaded at 9 with popular and apple set draft to 1/4 at 11 this morning.. stove room still 72 firebox still 300 ... raked ash in and some small splits had flame.. that's 14 hours without great wood and wife is happy.... let us know your results :thumbs:
     
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    So, it sounds like this winter will be much better for you than last winter! Good.
     
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    it's December haven't burned half cord yet last year I was at almost 4 cord by now... in short I'm :D:thumbs::banana: and not :shiver:
     
  8. chance04

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    We are in the same boat. I'm at less than half a cord and last year we had gone through two by now. I'm not complaining. My wood this year is marginal. So anything left over out of the ten gets to age another season
     
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    from running a wood shop i have learned far more about rigging machinery than is healthy for a person to know. the black color on the stove is very nice. i opted for charcoal which is a little softer look. you did a good job on the hearth pad plenty good enough for a temporary measure. i like the pooch.
     
  10. T-Stew

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    For the first year ever I actually have wood seasoned a full year and then some. I could never keep up with my own wood demand, and usually was cutting through spring for the next years wood... sometimes still in summer (though I'd leave that for the very tail end of winter to burn). It helped a lot was standing dead BL which was lower in moisture. Last year in September I cut a bunch of standing dead ash (EAB) and had all this years wood split and stacked in October or so. And even then a lot was in the 20-25% range last year and I burned a cord or two of it already last year. So this years ash should be much better than I'm used to. I've got maybe 2 cords to split for next year too, plus I am going to use a ton or two of eco bricks to extend out my wood supply since I have only 2 cord for next year. I am really wondering how this stove will worked packed full of Eco's, but I got to give myself time to learn how to run it comfortably first. I have all next week off so should have a good handle on things by the end. I may have some question, or want to share results, but I'll take it to the IS tips and tricks thread.

    Also just for the record I was going to mention my liner is 0" clearance / 6" pipe Simpson Duraliner (insulated) about 22' I think, and then I hooked up a simple tee to the bottom with just about 2' horizontal to the stove. Seems to be drafting great even in the 50's.
     
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    Whoa on those little brick boosters! Once little move and that whole stove could topple. Am I seeing that right? One brick under ach leg and you're right on the edge?

    Those andirons. They look good but don't they get in the way for loading? I didn't have andirons on my old stone side loader and never had a problem with the glass.
     
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    Highbeam, those andirons do not get in the way at all. They can tip down.

    Just a little word of warning on the eco bricks. I don't think it is a good idea to fully load a stove with those else it may get too hot. Better to mix wood and eco or only a partial load of eco bricks by themselves.
     
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    My liner isn't as insulated as I'd like. Pourable mix around the liner. I'm actually leaning towards replacing the entire chimney next year with a chase and all class a with an exterior clean out. Still my draft is sufficient. Only minor smoke spillage if I'm not careful
     
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    Well done! Being a one man stove mover is not easy.
     
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    Don't know, I've only really had break in fires so far. They flip down so they aren't really in the way. I know some people remove them, perhaps more to stop spilling a little ash out the front when they are flipped. We'll see. Yeah I have one brick under each leg, do you really think its unstable? The fenders made it look like they were more on the edge since they stick out further than the true legs underneath, but I have since centered them more for looks than anything else. I could remove them, or use something else to get the height just right, but I didn't figure a brick would be an issue.
    Not the first time I've used them if that's what your thinking - my Jotul tends to burn hot and not be very controllable - with a full load of good hardwood running draft fully closed all the time was norm - but I found I could do a full load of Eco's in it (I think I did up to 13 bricks) if I was careful. The IS seems to be able to throttle down WAY lower and more controllable than my Jotul, so I really hope this won't be a problem. Of course like with my last stove, I'll start off with just a few to see how it burns first. I got the longest burns with my Jotul with a full load of straight Ecos but with the IS it might not even be necessary to extend the burn time since it may already be able to get the burn length I want (not sure yet) so in that case the Ecos will be just to supplement my wood supply and I'll probably find a happy mix of bricks and cordwood and not do 100% bricks anyhow.
     
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    Sounds good T-Stew. I've never used them but just read of someone having their stove go berserk with too many in there so wanted to throw out a heads-up. Hope no problems arise.
     
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    I think BrianK tried a full load of bricks in the Progress hybrid when he was beta testing it...IIRC...CRS
     
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    I had well seasoned oak pallet cut offs that were varying lengths of 4"x6" and 6"x6". I fit them into my Beta IS fairly tight and got a fairly long (24hr) shoulder season burn out of them.

    But I've never used compressed firewood if that's what you're referring to. I would not hesitate to give it a try (as long as the IS manual doesn't warn against it), just cut the air back earlier and farther so they don't go nuclear.
     
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    Smart solo work. You definetly deserve to sit back and enjoy that IS with a grin on your face knowing that it was your ingenuity that got it there. :thumbs:
     
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