Help with Hearthstone Stoves

Not really. They have four medium (sub 3cf) stoves. the princess and then the 30 box stove that is a little smaller and less efficient but you can get it with three different outer claddings for aesthetics. Those are the four. If you can stand the looks, the princess is the superior appliance.

You really can’t use the max btu output for anything. Stoves burn in cycles with a peak that doesn’t really tell you anything about how that stove heats during the cycle.

 

That's what is so misleading about they way they advertise stoves. Real world use would not allow you to maintain a maximum output 24/7. I'd think a person should figure on 1/2 to 3/4 of the max for a normal, consistent long term output.

 

Welp, They ordered me the big dog yesterday. I'm going to go with the BK 40. I could have brought one home yesterday, but, I wanted the leg base as opposed to the pedestal base. The BK definitely is not as asthetically pleasing to look at as the Hearthstone Mansfield would be, but I don't think there's any doubt, it should easily heat the areas I'm wanting to.

 

Are you putting on the 6" pipe? I would love to have that huge 4.3 cubic foot firebox to just load to the top with 40 hours of fuel. Note that the fireview during the typical long burn will be more of a glowing coal pile than a flaming inferno.

 

i been runnin a BK king on 8" into a 6" stainless for 15 years no problem

 

Yes, I am going to install initially with the 6" pipe. I am fully prepared to install the 8" if necessary. Priced out a full 8" install from stove to ceiling...... $2500

I'm hoping 6" will work, but if it doesn't, I'll have a monster stove. I will keep you posted once I get it installed. Probably about 2 weeks or so.

 

Ok, so to say you just made my day is an understatement! That's exactly what I'm hoping for!

How much black pipe do you have from stove to cap? My understanding is, the taller it is, the more draw you get. I'm running about 16 feet.

 

Total height?
That is about the minimum for many stoves...

 

Not sure on the model, but this is a "smokin" deal on a BK/chimney for someone!

 

2500$ to just upsize the interior black pipe? Then leave the 6” chimney?

 

My stove is in the cellar,so I'm running about 6ft of 8" laser welded black single wall pipe vertical out of the stove for a couple feet then elbow to a slight upward angle into the thimble where it is reduced to 6" stainless lined chimney 24 feet vertical.

 

No, sorry for "grey" post. That was the price of an entire 8" chimney system from the stove, through the ceiling, up to the cap outside.

 

Ok, will be running 16 feet straight vertical out of the stove. I'm considering installing two 45 degrees elbows to give me a very slight offset so I can get a little closer to the wall behind the stove. Other than the two 45's it's a straight up shot.

What's your opinion on this? Do you think I'll get enough draw?

 

Yes, I am about 7 feet from stove to ceiling with double wall, (stainless inside, black outside) then, 9 feet from ceiling to cap outside using triple wall stainless.

This is all currently 6 inch.

 

I would try it....if. its not enough will you have the option of adding another section?

 

Thanks, I'm gonna go for it.

 

Those (2) 45* elbows will be the equivalent of taking ~3' off the chimney height...doesn't bode well for success with a 6" chimney.

 

Holy cow! With that being the case, I think I will just keep my straight shot up and leave the stove a couple inches farther away from the wall than I was hoping to. Thanks for letting me know this!

I just want to make sure I clarify that my stove pipe does not exit through a wall. I was not wanting to use the two 45's to create a 90° angle out the wall. My stove pipe exits through the ceiling, and I just wanted to use the two 45's to allow me a little offset so I could move the stove back towards the wall a little bit. Does this still qualify as taking 3 ft off the total length?

 

Keep your venting run straight. Unless you enjoy smoke rollout. 6" is questionable at best to begin with. I truly wish you luck.
The venting requirements for that stove ask for 3' of vertical before any change in direction. 8" entirely.

Read the owner/operator manual front to back. Read it again! It's that important.
These stoves (cat stoves in general) get unfairly called out as finicky or complicated.
If the new owner follows the operating procedure to a T you will likely be completely blown away with performance.
If you try to run these Cat equipped stoves as if they are old school smoke dragons you will be back here (elsewhere) complaining bitterly at your wasted investment.
It happens routinely every year.
Venting parameters normally must be met to attain the advertised performance. The advertised BK burn times can be met/exceeded. Fact.
Operate the stove per manual directive.
Don't even fire this beast if you have wet fuel. Complete waste. Put the dragon back in......

Eventually new BK owners can/will tweak there individual operating routine to fit their setup/local conditions.

Let the fun begin