So the Hawke scope is going back. There's nothing wrong with it. Nicely executed and good aesthetic. Illuminated reticle is nice. It doesn't stand up to the Sightrons. Less bright and less clarity looking side by side. My old eyes are needing all the light they can get these days. Will trade for another Sightron which if is still on sale will be about $50 less for same spec. I'm not a high end optics guy. I wanted to try something new. The Hawke looked promising. I hate to sound like a brand hussy. The Sightrons in this cost range are superior for me.