Giz/Emma and everyones pets on the board

You have to leave it on all the time. It is not supposed to be affected by water. They start out long and they have ratchet type teeth on the slip through lock. Almost like a zip tie. They don’t open up easily, but they say if the dog gets hung up in brush or something it will come apart.

 

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This is a good read. Would be so much better if more states followed Maine's lead in this matter
For shelter dogs from away, door’s wide open in Maine

 

Yes, a very good read. The guy you see in my avatar was a rescue who came up from South Carolina. Great dog. I’m here in bed cause my back hurts and he’s up here right at my feet. He is extremely loyal. Rescues seem to have a different personality.

 

Did you ever get your fuzzy fellas sorted out?

 

Oh no. It's not a good situation. I'm not sure if they will ever be back together. Neo is running normal his leg wound is still open and slightly draining but healing. Physically he is ok. Mentally however that ordeal did a job on him. At first i thought i would have to separate him from Teddy as well but the two worked it out. Teddy stood up to him and told him he may have a gimpy leg but his teeth are in perfect order. They stood there tails stiff and all tense for a few minutes and then just walked away and relaxed. They are in the fence and haven't been out poor guys but they seem to be ok. When Max comes to the fence Neo's tail goes between his legs and he crouches away. It is so sad to watch, he used to love Max so much and he is just a pup. I don't think he understands what happened or why. Having watched the situation a bit longer now. I think it might have been jealousy on Max's part that caused him to attack. He is my husband's dog, he has made that clear from the start. I'm ok but it's my husband he really likes. When my husband was here this weekend he was getting belligerent at the fence when Neo came to see what we were doing. I'm afraid he won't let it go.
Neo and Teddy sleep in the house and Max with the girls in the cabin. It brakes my heart but i'm afraid to let them back together. i miss having them along on the walks they had so much fun. I feel guilty but my feeling towards Max have changed, i don't trust him like i used to.
This is such a mess.

 

What a little doll.

 

I wonder if a little bit of tough love all around is in order?

 

What do you suggest? I love my dogs but i don't think i will ever understand them. Maybe I should have stayed out of that fight and let them fight it out. Sometimes they work it out but other times they kill. I have seen it plenty of times at foster homes when they were too trusting of new dogs or even their own. It is that way with all sizes not just the big guys. Two little Scotties came in one time and went to an experienced foster with two Scotties of her own. She introduced them and watched and all seemed great. The next day she had them together in the yard and she went into the house to cook dinner. She heard nothing, when she came out to check on them there was a big blood bath and both of her Scotties were dead. We will never know what happened.
You see i was afraid that Max might kill Neo. That's why i went in. Max is very independent and makes it clear by his actions every day. Last night when I went to bed he heard something and wanted out of the yard. I told him things where ok and to go to bed. He asked a couple more time but i didn't give in. When i got up this morning i found he had jumped the fence during the night. He hadn't done that in months.
Don't know what's going on with Neo, he acts ok, plays and runs. His wound is still draining but looks good. However, he doesn't want to eat much. I have left the food out for him today. Usually i take it up after they eat that avoids squabbles over food and also doesn't let the overweight ones eat it all.

 

Hard to say what would work best in your situation. I'm just a hick from the sticks, not a dog trainer of any sort so anything I have to offer might be anecdotal. It might be called dominance training?

Are you scared of them? Could you muzzle them, roll them on their backs, and hold them? I know Max seems to be the aggressor, but I would show both of them who's in charge. I would probably do it within view of the other, so they both know that ultimately, you are the top dog. I love animals, and this isn't to hurt them, or make them fear you, it's to get them in tune as to what the pecking order is.

 

Thanks saskwoodburner. i have never been afraid of dogs. Cautious with unknown ones yes but no fear involved. I can roll both of them over all i like and in view of each other no problem. I am the boss as far as they are concerned in all but one thing. Max is getting aggressive with other dogs. I have had that boy for almost 2 years now and he never showed any aggression at all. He is still great with me and the girls. I am thinking of taking him to the vet to see if we have any underlying cause for his irritability. We had another incident yesterday. A smaller dog about 45 lbs or so with a medical collar, the flat kind not the cone, showed up here. He came walking up out of the woods heading for me. He was scared you could tell and it took all his courage to come closer. When Max saw him the hackles all along his back went up and he chased the poor kid off. I can only hope that he didn't hurt him. His stance was very aggressive even though that little dog was no threat at all. I have never seen him act like that towards any dogs in the past.

 

Sounds like Max is sick of sharing. Maybe the last two were the straw that broke the camel's back. I had a cat like that. He eventually disappeared. Don't know what happened to him. He was 17 and always lived here. Maybe something got him. Having him checked out is a good idea. Another is to ck with some dog training references and see if there is a common thread about how to handle this. I haven't had to experience an angry large dog so that is all new to me. I wish you well.

 

Lucy I'm probably not gonna make any friends here saying this, but sounds to me like max needs some shock collar, prong collar, and leash training. You need to be able to call the dog off of anything. ANYTHING. With one command. Not repeated commands. That means a fight also. Physical intervention of fights means you haven't trained him well enough imo. If a single verbal command won't do it, you need to step up into the world of training aids. Training collars and long lines are a great place to start. Clickers are not training aids that will work for your situation either.

 

I wish I could speak dog also, the dog-dog interactions can be hard to understand sometimes. A few years ago I had some head to head problems with my two females, still do to some extent, I contacted a pro trainer for help. His advice was to just be a super strong leader, know the warning signs of the conflict, stop it before it starts and avoid putting the dogs in the situations when it does occur. For mine it is when either my wife or I pay particular attention to one of the dogs, the other wants to be part of it and the one getting the attention takes exception. The trainer also recommended this book;



I am a biologist by training, so it is my nature to try and get a core understanding, I have not read the whole book but have found it helpful. Interestingly enough some of the research was done many years ago at the institution where I work.

 

Clean up, Aisle 9...

 

Actually, I agree with bocefus78, dogs are not trained well enough. I do realize that rescue animals are completely different than a dog raised since puppyhood or adult dogs that get introduced into a home. My moms Rottweiler, rescued as a pup (family lost heat in ice storm) was voice commands.. 3 times in her life I could not call her off. All 3 protecting her "kids" she would stop but not return. In her old age she went deaf, I did not realize, until visitor opened door dog was sleeping did not hear, in dogs mind she was not doing her JOB. Luckily I was there or would have been ugly. So maybe a vet check up is required.

 

Reeces (brown) before and after shearing with his new partner in crime Anastazy (tan)