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Giz/Emma and everyones pets on the board

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  1. rottiman

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    If its laced with anti freeze it should have a sweet smell to it.
     
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    Might be warfarin then. How much did she get Loon?
     
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    Not sweet and thinking only a nip as for once i was pretty quick at doing something!
     
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    Oh man loon.
    I really hope this works out ok for Emma and you.
    Please keep us posted. We'll be right here.
     
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    Thanks gang!

    A few hours later now and its a snore fest. :cheers: Mind you i got the evil eye when the camera snapped. :D

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    No signs of distress?
     
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    Pretty sure things are good dave. She's out back barking at the moon right now. :whistle: :D We'll be up for awhile yet so things wont go south on us without noticing.
     
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    Keeping my fingers crossed over here.
     
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  9. savemoney

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    If it is warfarin, she could get some vit. K injection that brings the clotting time back down. Warfarin is a blood thinner.
    We more commonly know it as rat poison because it thins the blood too far and the rat has internal bleeding.
    No Sudden Symptoms to Look For
    If your pet ingests rodent bait containing warfarin, similar to the situation with mice and rats, there will be no symptoms to alert you right away.

    Your dog or cat won’t throw up or seem sick, and in fact, a lot of pet owners don’t even know their animal has ingested bait.

    Eventually, though, your dog or cat will exhibit some or all of the following signs of warfarin toxicosis:

    • Pale gums
    • Bruising, red splotches on the skin
    • Bleeding from the nose
    • Bleeding from the GI tract which can result in bloody urine or feces
    • A swollen belly from blood accumulating in the abdomen
    • Lethargy
    • Weakness
    Because some of these symptoms also occur in less serious illnesses, it’s common for pet owners to assume a dog or cat is just a bit under the weather, when in reality, the animal is in the process of dying.

    Primary and Secondary Toxicosis
    There are two ways your pet can become poisoned by rodent bait. Even if you never have and never will plant bait in your home, that doesn’t necessarily mean your dog or cat isn’t at risk.

    I live in a farming community, and we don’t set bait traps at my house. However, our dogs and cats have both been exposed to bait from other sources.

    If a neighbor sets out bait, the rodents that take it can then wander onto your property. They will grow weaker as the toxicosis spreads through their system, and they often twitch as they are dying. Your pet might want to investigate this creature – might even want to play with it.

    Unfortunately, dogs and cats do sometimes go on to consume rodents that have been poisoned with warfarin. The toxin is passed up the food chain, and your pet can end up with secondary toxicosis. So even if you have no bait around your home, your pet isn’t automatically safe.

    Primary toxicosis is what takes the lives of most pets, though, especially dogs. It happens when the dog eats the bait right out of the trap and it goes directly into his bloodstream. The reason this happens more often with dogs than cats is because dogs tend to ingest more of the bait than kitties do.

    Prognosis
    The outlook for a dog or cat that has been poisoned with bait containing warfarin is based on how much was ingested, how long ago it was ingested, and what treatment was instituted afterward.

    If you suspect your dog or cat has warfarin toxicosis, you should seek veterinary care immediately. The sooner your vet can diagnose the situation, the higher the probability your pet can be saved.

    Your vet will perform an anticoagulant blood test called a clotting profile. The results should indicate how much bait was ingested and what dose of vitamin K – the treatment for warfarin toxicosis – is needed.

    If you know for a fact your pet has recently ingested bait, you can also induce vomiting. Your vet can walk you through how to do it when you call him/her.

    But if it has been more than a few hours after ingestion, inducing vomiting won’t help

    I recommend if you believe your pet has been poisoned by rodent bait – for example, if you see your kitty consuming a mouse that might have died from eating bait – ask your veterinarian to do the clotting profile blood test.

    If your pet has warfarin toxicosis, she may need to be hospitalized depending on the results of blood tests and the symptoms she exhibits. Your vet may also need to perform a blood transfusion.



     
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    Use a syringe to force hydrogen peroxide down her to induce vomiting.
     
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    How's Em today Terry?
     
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    Hope things have leveled out for EM.
     
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    Thanks gang :) Emma is fine and here she is having dinner a few minutes ago.. ;)

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    Problem right now is none of them are allowed out in the fields with us till we figure out what the heck is going on with this poison crap? :whistle:

    Game cameras are in place now but i know my buddy will find out whats what.
     
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    Glad to hear it Loon. Yup, keep them critters under supervision. Its gonna be interesting to see how this one unfolds.
     
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    Evil.
     
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    Glad to here Emma is Ok Loon, some people are just outrite Evil, as wildwest said! Mostly in my opinion, Heartless…
     
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    Agree with weldrdave....Hope Emma is still good....And think that guy needs a punch in the head....:confused:
     
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    Are there laws up your way about setting out poison bait?+
    Keep a eye on Emma, It might take 3 or 4 days for the symptoms to show. So glad she is ok right now. If she will eat it, feed her some broccoli or spinach. If I put butter on it, my dogs eat all I can give them. Those veggies are loaded with vit K and will lower the clotting numbers. If this isn't the problem, those veggies won't hurt her a bit.
     
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    , wow I just read all this scary stuff I'm praying it's going to turn out okay
     
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    Everything is fine as it was a non poisonous bait for animals eating his sheep. My buddy talked to him lastnite and found out that he is trying to deal with 2 wolves that he has seen in his pens. I have never seen wolves down this far but have heard of them, he also apoligized for not making the call about putting the bait out the nite before as that is where he has seen them lurking.
    He also said that the government doesnt reimburse him for animal kills as he doesnt make enough cash off them every year?
    I guess i am going to have to keep a gun in the truck when we go for her run as i am pretty sure she would get hurt or worse with these things hanging around. :whistle:

    I might just go up to the field later this afternoon and give him a hand hunting with the 7mm.:yes:
     
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