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Garage/shop build

Discussion in 'The DIY Room' started by DaveGunter, Mar 12, 2022.

  1. wildwest

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    I can't visualize, so a floor will be built over the dirt and entry to shop/garage will be at driveway elevation? Or dig out the dirt inside and entry from the lower side?
     
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    High end will be top of slab...My drawing makes it look like there will be a door on both sides, in order for that to happen the low end would have to be built up (I don't believe they will do that).

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    Ah, got it. Thank you.
     
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  4. DaveGunter

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    Wall forms going up.
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    Concrete contractor is a Sox fan…must be a good guy

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    Bond outs for the man doors, garage doors and floor drains.
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    Seems to be square, plumb and level, but he made a mistake in the placement of the man door bond out on the porch side. It should be centered at 18’ but he put the start of the bond out 18’ from the front edge, so it’s about 22” off center. You can see it in the last pic. I’m thinking a solution to this might be to just cut out 22 inches of the wall before he pours the slab. It will make the bond out be way bigger than it needs to be but the excess can just be framed out with wood so the door can be centered on the wall.?

    Now we’re waiting on the earth work guy to backfill and install floor drains, he said probably next week.
     
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    Have you considered going even a skosh bigger and install a double door?

    Overall, looking gooder. :salute:
     
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    Personally I would just accept the door being a little of center, but your solution will work. The slab will be poured last (I assume), so you will most likely want to drill and epoxy a couple bars into the wall and pour that 22" piece so you can place your sill plate?

    Double door = brilliant (but it still won't be perfectly centered)
     
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    Would be if you cut the appropriate amount with respect to both directions.
     
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    If I cared enough I would figure it out...But if the center is 22" off, my head tells me you can get it closer to center but not right on. Great idea though and would be inches within being centered.
     
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    So after consulting with the Boss and having a better idea of the final grade now that the walls are formed, we’ve made a few design changes.

    Option one: leave the dormer porch roof as is and offset the door to the left and have one window under the porch, the mistakenly placed door bond out is perfect for this.

    Option two: change the porch to a shed roof and start the porch at the halfway point of the wall and extend the porch to the back edge of the building. Not sure I like this idea as the metal roof will shed the snow directly onto the dooryard between the house and the garage. We’d need to find a way to get the porch stairs under the porch roof too.

    We will also likely add lean to on the right side.
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    I should shut up, but I don't see a foundation for your left side bump out.
    Why does the door from the garage have to lineup with the exterior door?
     
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    If I’m understanding your question correctly…The left side is a porch deck and will be PT wood attached to the concrete. It doesn’t necessarily have to be at the same level as the interior slab, it will likely be built one step down coming out of the man door.

    There is a one foot concrete curb, the slab will be one foot below the top of the concrete walls.
     
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    Perfect, I looked at your elevations and thought the "bumpout" was an interior space!
    Love your building my friend, congrats!
     
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    The snow should definitely be a consideration Dave! :D 20230305_084126.jpg
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    ^^ this causes ground ice dam and water comes in at seams turns garage into skating rink:bug:

    solution is perf pipes and water softener salt
    Another learned hard way:pain:
     
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    Dirt work happened, ready for the slab.
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    Floor drain for each bay.

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    This is not final grading, just enough to get the building built, I’ll pretty it up later.
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    Gypsy, the three legged supervisor. She likes to herd the pipe and carry the fittings around. She lost her rear leg as a pup in a draft horse haying accident.



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    Looks great Dave!
    And I think it's a good move matching the house roof.:thumbs:
    I'll have to train my little Jack Russell to stay put in the excavator like Gypsy.
     
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