First Fire In New Stove Guidelines Please

I wouldn't cut the legs off that wall bracket completely, you could attach the arms right to them and use any bolts.
The arms that you want to attach to the same roof brackets could be made from 1/2" conduit, it's cheap, you can flatten the ends, drill holes in them and bend them to the angle you need, but figure out which way you need to bend them,( if you need to bend them) before you flatten the ends

 

No UTZ! ... That's just NUTZ!

And another thing they don't have are these:

Just a couple reasons why WV was Almost Heaven .

 

Those wall brackets are pretty flimsy...they are meant to be flat against a wall. You could attach as you suggest, but if I were gonna try that I would lay a piece of angle iron crossways behind the wall bracket...kinda sandwiched between the wall bracket and the roof braces...that would be pretty sturdy...and cheap if you make the braces out of EMT conduit as was suggested

 

That's good input because I have never had my hands on a bracket like that

 

Another thing is that it would look "funny". I know stainless steel is a hard material but my brother-in-law has lots of tools and I am sure he would help me. If I simply use the inner band it would be much like the roof kit; which had a two piece band so you could size it for different chimney sizes. Then I could look at conduit for the guy rods. The guy kit had square holes and the bolt for the band had a square shoulder so you could tighten the nut with the band in place. I really don't want to have to spend another $50 for a roof guy kit.

 

Carriage bolts

 

Carriage bolts...
EDIT: Dang it! The Rock got the jump on me! (great minds think alike apparently )

 

All part of being a homeowner, right??

Spend it!

 

"Escanaba In Da Moonlight".......................................Da "yooperdave" life story!!!

 

Never did watch that one and I don't think I will be!

I still get a kick out of that avatar!

 

Day got da accents perfect!!!

One of the funniest scenes you's guys will ever see in a movie also, yah hey!!

 

Now it's drafting

 

I guess my point is, a stove will draft if the chimney is hot. Even a 3 foot chimney on a 100 degree day, I do just that with my wood fired smoker. The draft is driven by the inside/outside temp difference of the chimney/air. If you overheat the house maintaining the draft, you need more chimney. Otherwise, get the chimney hotter. Several things affect the amount of effort necessary, but you could produce plenty of draft, with your ~1 ft less than manufacturers recommended chimney, to smelt that stove. Adequate draft is really a measure of convenience. Over-drafts need reigned back and under-drafts need pushed.
A taller chimney may very well make thinks more convenient for you but your existing chimney might work fine with some practice/experimenting.
If you want it to draft: get the chimney HOT.

 

More like six feet I think; and then there are the two 90s in my system.

 

Chimney is measured in total height (not just the exterior) from the chimney cap to the floor or stove top. That needs to be standardized. Englander measures from the floor, except on the Madison, according to your email Not sure why a corporation changes their definition for one model stove.

ETA: not doubting you, just the person who emailed you.

 

X1000 on hotness

 

I'm sure most of have heard the saying that the chimney is the engine that drives the stove...that said, you could think of it like this...a short chimney is like pulling a heavy trailer with a pickup that has a small V8...lots of driver forethought and time spent at full throttle required to not be too much of a traffic hazard while pulling hills on the highway.
On the other hand, a tall chimney would be more like pulling the same load with the same pickup, but now it has a large V8...much less time spent at full throttle and power plenty enough to make up for lack of driver skill and/or forethought...
If we have any old semi drivers here that drove back in the days of low horsepower tractors...I think they will appreciate this lil analogy...most of the new tractors, just set the cruise and keep it in your lane while you jabber away on your cell phone...not much "skill" required comparatively (oh, and the brakes...when is the last time you seen a rig with brakes on fire? Used to happen quite a bit...anyways, bunny trail

 

I am learning and the stove pipe thermometer that Machria gifted to me is helping. I start off with a small load of small splits that I get to burning hot and watch the thermometer on the stove pipe. I am getting the chimney hotter and it is drafting better. I am still seeing smoke spillage and that is one of the things that is annoying; it might be that the draft is still low even with the hot chimney, just my location and the shorter chimney; or just the stove. I have a stove top thermometer on order from Amazon to replace the oven thermometer.

 

Some stoves tend to spill smoke by design, even with an adequate draft. The Madison may be one of them. One of the ways to deal with that- fill the stove and don't open the door again until it's at the coaling stage and needs a refill (vs putting a log on the fire every hour or two). By the end of next winter, you and the Madison will likely be getting along very well.

 

brenndatomu But, food for thought, if your big V8 has a Carter 2 barrel carburetor with nothing done to the rest of the system, and your small V8 has a Holly 750 Double pumper properly tuned as in needles and discharge nozzles, ported and polished heads, modified intake, 3" exhaust straight through, and a Dana 60 rear end with 3:2 gears, plus a modified transmission, and so on, which will win? (Just saying)

While chimney height might be important to some, if one pays attention to the 10', 3', 2' rule, things will work much the same. If your 5 or 10 feet above the rule things MAY run better, but if your not able to bring the chimney up to temperature, what you have added is for nothing. A big V8 with a Carter 2 barrel carburetor. (Again, just saying, and not because I know anything about anything)

My system, is a modded straight 6 that has blown the doors off many large V8's because I know what I've got, know all of it's idiosyncrasies and tweaked it for optimal performance. My last fire was lit at 8:00 AM, 2 small to medium splits, and my home is at 77 degrees at 11 AM, 3 hours later. I don't expect to add anything more until maybe 4 pm or later.

Just food or thought, your mileage may vary.