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Discussion in 'Pellet Stoves, Pellet Fireplaces, Pellet Furnaces' started by Ward8512, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. DexterDay

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    1,200 sq should be a walk in the park.
     
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    10 registers in the house. I can't get pictures right now since I am not home but I will get some tomorrow.
     
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    If you know what your doing and the people who install it know what they are doing. I keep thinking something cannot be hooked up correctly. How can we have no air at all coming out of most of our vents? Maybe the blower is just too small for a 2 story house...
     
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    10 registers isn't a whole lot. I have 7. But all on one floor.

    I just don't like how they ran a small duct off the main duct? To many angles? Did they check the static pressure within the HVAC? It's in the manual what it should be under.

    Did they install the dampers backwards? That would allow no airflow.

    Have you tried closing off a few registers downstairs? Rooms that have a higher heat demand (that you use) leave open, but if it's a room that you don't use? Or a room that air will have to "return though".

    Example. If you have 2 bedrooms at the end of a hallway? And the hallway has a vent? Then it should be closed. As the warm air from the 2 bedrooms has to flow down the hallway on its way back to the basement.

    I wish I lived closer. I would just come over and look at it. I have $2,000 in my system. And I just picked up my BIL for $2,000. Both were used. Mine is on its 4th season (1st season was by original owner, last 3 seasons by me). My BIL is gonna pick his up this weekend from my house. I picked it up yesterday from my dealer. He has around a 1,400 sq ft Ranch w/full basement. He bought the Fahrenheit because he has seen what it does to my house, which is double his (again, I burn wood, but even if I didn't, we would be cold).

    I really hope we can help you. When you open the door while it's running, is a lot of air flowing from behind the deflection plate (just above the heat exchanger cleaning rod)?? And is there a lot of air coming out by your feet with door open (this air will seem cold, but that is the air that cools around the firebox, gets heated and mixes with the heat exchanger air and then goes up the 10" duct).
     
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    We have two bedrooms up stairs with vents, the main floor has all the rest of the vents. The furnace is on one end of the basement so the 2 vents on that end of the house have air flow but all the vents that are located at the far end of the house have nothing. Unfortunately that is our living room and dining room. The bathroom and kitchen that don't need as much heat have the vents with air blowing out. I am going to quit worrying about it for tonight, it's giving me a headache. Tomorrow I will try again. I just really hope that we can figure this out, I did this to save money and instead it just cost me 6000 and a tank of propane. Didn't want to fill up again this year but with these temps and no pellet furnace we had no choice.
     
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    Really hope you get this figured out. IMO you are the right place to get the most informative help to make that happen.
    Keeping a close watch on this thread.
    Good luck !
     
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    That is so nice, I really appreciate all the help that you are giving me!
     
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    Dexter is good people...He will get you straightened out!!
     
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    Not sure this is even possible, but what would happen if they try to run the pellet burner and at the same time run just the fan on the propane furnace? Would that help determine if a damper is missing,or installed wrong?

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    What I had to do was adjust the dampers on the runs that connect to the takeoffs that feed the floor registers. My main trunk runs the whole length of the house, and there are (guessing here) 12 registers that connect to the trunk. The pellet furnace sits at the far end of the house, oil furnace is in the middle.

    In my case the registers closest to the end of the house where the pellet furnace is were getting the majority of the airflow. Makes perfect sense, air takes the path of least resistance. Most of the 6" take offs had dampers installed, but some didn't. In the fall, I adjust the dampers so the registers at the end of the house closest to the pellet furnace are mostly closed, and the ones at the far end are mostly open.

    Another issue I had was leaky joints in the ductwork. And I mean a lot of them. When I first connected the furnace, the curtains in the living room didn't move. That was my scientific test, as they flap all over the place with the oil furnace/AC blower going. After sealing the joints with foil tape, the curtains were moving in the 'breeze'. For me it was easy as my house is a ranch and all ductwork was easy to get at in the basement. In a two story house, I'm guessing you have ductwork in chases going upstairs and what not so accessing all the ductwork probably isn't feasible.

    You'll never look like the guy in the 1980's Memorex commercials with the blower in the Fahrenheit, but you should feel something coming out of the vents. With a 800 CFM blower, a leak or open duct in a wall could wreak havoc, whereas it may not be as much of an issue with the larger blower on the propane furnace.

    The above is all based on the assumption that the dampers were installed correctly as Dexter pointed out. I'd guess they were, as if they were in backwards then your propane furnace blower would be screaming like a banshee and you wouldn't get much air, if any, out of the ducts when that is running.
     
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    Is it live or is it Memorex?

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    That's the one..... :)
     
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    I saw that with a Harmon you could get optional larger blowers. Is this possible on the fehrenheit?
     
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    Not from Fahrenheit, but their are members that have looked into the aftermarket. There may be a larger motor, with higher RPM, that would give you a small increase in CFM (1,000 CFM). But it has not been confirmed.

    If and when something is available, I will be one to upgrade.

    As 343amc mentioned, you may have a leaky system. Some smoke sticks (incense) and some high temp foil tape will help seal up leaks in your system.

    Can you open up where your air filter goes in your Primary furnace and put a candle near or in that opening? I am interested at the level of air still going back into your furnace.

    I have manual dampers installed on my main furnace. I have to physically shut them. So I know they are closed. These are not ideal for most, because your other furnace can't be ran in tandem. If I run out of pellets, or a problem comes about with the furnace? Then the stove upstairs will kick on. Most people need that main furnace to work if the pellet furnace fails. I have a back up, so I made mine manual.

    Also, where is the intake air damper set? The small intake tube on the back has a little lever on it, If it's closed to far, you will get a Rich burn and won't get much heat. I know you need air through the registers, but a hotter fire will allow the air your getting to be much warmer. I would start with the lever in the level position. This is wide open and will feed the most air to the fire. Both 343amc and I have videos of ours burning to give you an idea what the flame should look like and how active it should be.
     
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    This is level 3 and close to what your looking for. If the flame in yours is slower or if it is bur ING sooty, then you need to open the air damper.


     
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    Sorry it took so long to reply...it was girls night out and the Bud Light was going down good!

    Anyway, my Hubby called fehrenheit today and talked to them. They said that a lot of stuff is hooked up incorrectly and they will be calling the dealer to get them straightened out. They also wanted the serial number because we should not have gotten a brand new furnace with the old version of software and no upgrades. They are also giving us the control panel and other upgrades at no cost to us. (Made in America always has better customer service!)

    Fehrenheit will get back to us tomorrow about what they find out with the serial number. Our dealer may not be too happy with us but we had to look out for ourselves. Thanks again for all your help guys!
     
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    I was wondering how they handled upgrades. I was gonna suggest you ask your dealer about the exhaust manifold, sail switch, and control board? But based on their knowledge? It was better left alone.

    Who did you speak with? Matt Fitts is a phenomenal man as is Mark Graham (owner).

    Glad you contacted them. They are good people who want to help.
     
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    My Hubby isn't sure who he talked to but my Husband told them that what the dealer said when he told them if it wasn't hooked up correctly it could void the warranty.

    The dealer replied "they cover the warranty if we tell them to, they do what we say because we installed it"

    Fehrenheit person said that they will be taking that to their supervisor.

    The sticker on the back of our furnace has the serial number and it says certified 12/06. Did they even make these in 06?
     
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    Yes. They did. My serial # is 2738.

    What serial # is yours?


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    The first versions came out in 07. They've upgraded several things since then but the safety certs stay the same.

    Fahrenheit does have great support as well as a very nice facility. They're about 35 miles away from me. I got a nickel tour of their factory last year. I needed a new exhaust blower and was working 10 miles away that day so I swung through and picked up the part.

    Being able to talk to the people who design and build the units can prove invaluable, especially when your dealer might not be fully trained.

    Edit - I've got the old man furnace here. S/N 2349. No fancy LCD control panel here. Just LED's. :)
     
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