Fahrenheit endurance 50f help

How are you doing Ivanhoe here’s a picture of my control board I’m hoping you’re not gonna tell me I have to upgrade that

 

Yeah I have I CO sensor in the garage and I got it piped to the chimney hopefully the new manifold will let it breathe I also have the upgraded motor

 

Looks like the CB has been changed, do you have autolight option or still manual light?
Pics of your setup are always welcomed, we like to drink beer over them

 

Yes it is an auto light it lights really fast still waiting on my new manifold I thought it was mandatory to drink beer while working on one of these

 

Hey gentlemen, I'm new here and am having issues with my 50F. Seems to start fine but then after initial lighting the flame gets lazy and Fire goes out. I already tore it down and cleaned it. Tried looking up the company but seems like they're not in business anymore? I'd really appreciate any help.

Scott

 

What are you using for fuel? Lazy flame =not enough air or worn out burnpot. I've seen stoves with heat exchanger completely blocked up (scrape rod totally seized) and also the behind the back wall passages!
Pics of burnpot pieces and the setup/venting can help diagnose the problems.

 

I’m using hardwood pellets I tried a bag of soft wood pellets and they worked a little better but as it sits it doesn’t have the upgraded manifold I’m waiting on it and fan this thing is a 2008 I think it has been hardly used because they couldn’t get it to burn right I bought it for $200 I’ve been right through it and I made sure everything is clean

 

When it is on start up it burns perfectly so I think once I put the manifold and new fan on it it will be cured

 

It's also very complex with an inordinate amount of parts in the burn chamber involved. The USSC units I own (and the new ones as well) have a lot less components to deal with. Basically (in the burn chamber) have a one piece removable burn pot, a stirrer agitator, hairpin clip to attach it to the drive tang, 2 sheet steel cleanout doors (small) and the backer cast Vermiculite board and that is it. That thing loos way over engineered to me. I see he tells owners to use a BBQ butane lighter to test the door gasket. Guess he never heard of the 'dollar bill' test which is much quicker and easier. If you are flush, you can use a 100 dollar bill...lol I use a piece of note paper myself.

 

Fire goes out because not enough fuel feeding it or just lack of air? Has the auger trim/fan trim being adjusted? Fire goes out at what feed#? Try increasing feed#(1 slowest and 5 fastest)

 

I can say without prejudice that I would never own any unit with exposed tubular heat exchange pipes in the firebox. I might buy one to refurbish and sell but would never own one for a couple reasons. One the maintenance is higher and Two, unless the tubes were seamless steel mandrel drawn schedule 60 or thicker wall tube, there is always a failure factor involved and I'd not be the one the have to retube one. From what I can see, looks to be schedule 40 seamed steel (welded seam) tubing, rolled from low carbon sheet.

 

Buddy of mine burned his out and I had to install some new ones and I used seamless schbedule 60 mandrel drawn tubing and it wasn't cheap and the out of position welding wasn't easy either.

 

I'm sure there are. Things do fail however. His did.

Far as the unit is concerned, I don't care for the multi piece burn pot at all. The simpler the better. Complex stuff makes it even harder to maintain.

The one paramount thing I've found out from buying used units and refurbing them is, a lot of owners are very lax in maintenance and they have to be maintained regularly to work properly. Bought some real bombs that were so packed up with ash, I don't see how they even worked. Last one I bought off Facebook Marketplace was so packed with fly ash, I had to chain it up to the front end loader and flip it upside down and beat on it with a big dead blow hammer to dislodge the packed in ash and I had to weld up a crack in the firebox as well. It was obvious to me that the previous owner overfired it. Getting ready to put one on Flea Bay right now.

 

I imagine that the majority of bio mass stove owners never bother to come on a site like this unless they are having issues beyond their scope of capabilities and of course not many ever bothered to read the owners manual either. Like I said before. We live in a plug and play society so people expect these to be just that and they aren't. In fact they are the polar opposite. That also applies to chunk wood stoves and coal burners too. Least in the case of coal burners, because of their initial cost, owners tend to read and follow the owners manuals as they are much more expensive to purchase than a run of the mill bio mass unit.

Believe me, if I had rice coal availability here, I'd be running either a Hitzer or a Keystoker

I see you are almost 20 degrees warmer than we are presently. Must feel balmy.