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Envi Blocks

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  1. jo191145

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    Dexterday stated he was having problems with his sciatic nerve. More often than not Gatorade is the quickest easiest cure. Though the symptoms appear in the hip or leg the culprit is normally dehydrated discs in the spine pinching the nerve. Rehydrating is the best, easiest cure.
    I've been partially paralyzed in the left leg for 15 years. There is no cure for that that I'm aware of. Best to nip it in the bud before one gets to that stage.
     
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    Ok :whistle::yes:
     
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    Made a stop at TSC today and found these.... 6 pack for $3.49, so I bought 2 to give 'em a shot.
    Heavier than I thought they'd be.......
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    Thank you for the tip. This summer has been much better. I've had very little pain and can get around much better. But I quit drinking pop (I have one or two a month) and drink a lot of water and Gatorade (no joke.. You may be onto something) :thumbs:

    Thanks for the post!
     
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    Something to be aware of with Gatorade.......it's loaded with sugar.
    I went from pop to Gatorade too and now drink water all day after my morning coffee, with an occasional mug of Gatorade.
     
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    Rick W- regarding Hot blast furnace- About the max time of usable heat from that wood eater is about 4 hours on a decent load of wood. Pellets won't work as they will just fall through the grate for the most part unless you add some type of heavy preforated plate on top of the grate. Got to watch out for that auto draft unit mine would always hang up wide open ended up disconecting it and just using the spin draft. The unit is designed for coal first- if you add the blower for that purpose ( gets set up with a t-stat) with the ability to burn other solid fuel such as wood. I haven't used it in about 4 -5 years as I installed an NC30 upstairs and that heats the house 98 %. I never trusted the hb completely it did cut my Ng costs for the time I used it but the NC 30 does a much better job and uses a lot less wood. Hauling wood down the stairs for that HB was a pita ( I do not have a walkout basement) I use about 1/2 as much or less wood with the 30 with more heat than I did with the HB unit. Now when I can get my sons entire houshold goods out of my basement I will likely sell the hb for a bit of a cost recoupment and maybe put a pellet burner down there ( I have an old Englander pellet unit doing nothing) so its not a big cost factor for the switch out. I do not need heat downstairs unless I am working down there- which is impossible at present.

    There was tons of information on the hb units at one time on the various wood burning forums- how much is still around after all the hacks is hard to say. There were a couple of gents that modified the units by adding secondary air injection systems with good success - lot work to do so though.

    Before the EPA got there stickyfingers in the works there were some really fantastic wood stoves around that would rival anything currently available with more control and more heat reclamation than most of current stuff. A lot of that innovation got snuffed with the cost of testing for particulates and such.
     
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    ok thanks for that info. I don't know what the nc30 is(?) For now I have the HB with no other source of heat. I tried the envi blocks but they only lasted about 2.5 hours. Still not sure if this is better than seasoned wood.






     
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    Enviblocks (the large 3 pack bricks) saved my bacon last winter. ~300 / ton in the northeast. Stove is a 30NC and burn time was equivalent to firewood splits. Easier to light though. They burn quite well and down to ash without trouble.

    I also tried other brands from box stores and had misery.
     
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    I bought a little of a similar brand a few years ago to stretch out a short supply of wood. I prefer wood and wood never use it other than a backup because economically it doesn't make sense.
     
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    Agree economics. In my case it was needful. I ran out of wood before I ran out of winter.
     
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    That's cool papadave. I'm sure it's loaded with sugar. Nonetheless when your in pain a little sugar is the least of anyone's worries.
    As a commercial mason I probably work in some of the toughest environments. Masonry is constantly pouring off water vapor and heat from curing. Couple that with intense atmospheric heat and it's not much different than spending your day in a wood kiln.
    When I'm working during the summer months plain water will not cut it. I've tried. Within a week my back will start hurting. At least 20 ozs of Gatorade a day will get me through. With plenty of water to go with it that is.
    Now if I suggested a half gallon of Garelik Farms whole chocolate milk was an almost instantaneous cure for back pain you folks would think I'm crazy. They took it off the market so I won't. Don't bother trying other brands they don't work.

    As for the Eviblocks. They saved my butt last year but I won't be buying any this year. Sometimes you gotta do what Ya gotta do.
     
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    Yep
     
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    Nice to meet you:) We bought a pellet stove for convenience. I say if the enviro blocks are easier for you, good deal!
     
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    Thank you, passing this info on to dear husband!
     
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    Let's just say I've had a lot of time to kill in bed where all my friends and family thought I should read books on neurology. :)
    One of the U.S.'s preeminate neurosurgeons came right out and said it like it was. Most of the spinal surgeries done in the US are not needed. Get your patients rehydrated and they'll walk home. Modern medicine doesn't usually like easy answers.
     
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    Do you have gas? I can get a pallet of NEIL's for $350, if I has to (I don't) I could probably get by with 4 pallets for $1400, if I just used oil it would come out to a lot more than $1400 even at todays low prices.
     
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    Ok folks, just one last snippet of intellect I gleamed from my reading and then I'll shut up.
    When your body begins to dehydrate the first place it looks for extra liquid is the spinal discs. There's quite a bit stored in there I know.
    The last place your body replenishes liquids is the spinal discs. Nuff said, I'll shut up now.
     
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    Good info.
    Another great reason to stay hydrated ALL THE TIME. If you wait to take a drink of water/Gatorade after you thirsty, you've already become partially dehydrated.
    Sounds like you're already quite aware of the need.
    I didn't mean to suggest that Gatorade wouldn't rehydrate or work for your pain issues. I was merely pointing out the sugar content.
    I'm wondering if your pain relief using Gatorade in those extreme working conditions isn't/wasn't due to the electrolytes in the drink.
    I still drink it, just not quite as often.
     
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    No, I have oil which is going for about $2 a gallon here now. Burning wood cuts my oil in 1/2. I mean the blocks weren't economical compared to wood, but I didn't compare to oil.

    By the way, at this price someone way behind on their wood supply could easily justify burning oil this season to get ahead for the future.
     
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    Envi blocks look to be around 8000 btu per pound and a pallet of envi blocks is 2200 or so lbs.
    With those numbers envi blocks work out to around $1.99 per 100,000 BTU.
    Oil is 138,000 btu per gallon. My mom just filled up for $1.89 or $1.37 per 100,000 BTU and oil is delivered to your house and pumped into the tank.

    If envi blocks stayed at 350/pallet then$2.75/gallon oil would be the break even point, ignoring whatever it costs to go pick up the blocks.
     
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